Source Audio midi control question

[fretmeister]

What's the cheapest (I know!) way to control 2 SA pedals with access to patches?

I've got the Spectrum and the Ultrawave and they are even more fun together.

 

Is it the proper SA Neural hub and their controller or are there other options?

 

ta

 

[AJ567]

The SA pedals can interface with MIDI in two ways:

 

1) the little control port (3.5mm TRRS jacks)

2) USB

 

To do it the first way, you need the SA Neuro hub, plus any midi controller you like.

For the second way, you would need a controller with USB MIDI hosting functionality (e.g. Morningstar), plus an additional USB midi hosting adapter (e.g. Disaster Area Midi ghost) for the second pedal. 

 

SA neuro hub + any controller is probably cheaper, unless your controller of choice has USB hosting anyway.

 

NB you can DIY the second midi hosting adapter if you are handy with a soldering iron. This would save you maybe £50 off the Disaster area midi ghost. I posted on the DIY thread about this some time ago. 

 

 

[Jakester]

On 28/07/2022 at 12:12, AJ567 said:

NB you can DIY the second midi hosting adapter if you are handy with a soldering iron. This would save you maybe £50 off the Disaster area midi ghost. I posted on the DIY thread about this some time ago. 

You don’t even need to DIY it. 
 

I bought one of these to us with my C4 and a Disaster area Micro and it works fine:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DM6EMQ2/ref=pe_27063361_487055811_TE_3p_dp_1

[AJ567]

Yeah that cable/adapter will let you connect the usb ports on the controller and one of the SA pedals. But for the second pedal, you would need another 5-pin midi to usb converter, like this one:

 

[Quatschmacher]

Source Audio is about to launch an adapter that obliviates the need for the Hub. 

[moley6knipe]

The TB thread on this states that the forthcoming adaptor will draw power from the control port (so, 1/8” TRRS) on the C4 etc. And there’s talk of 3.3v so I’m guessing the other end is a 5 pin DIN?

 

Cabling wise (because of no thru capability) the pedal

attached would need to be end of chain or fed from a midi splitter (especially if using 2 of them

i guess).

 

In a MIDI over TRS world, 1/8” or 1/4” as options instead of 5 pin DIN would give flexibility, but maybe not technically possible?

 

I’m kinda assuming it’ll only work for the ‘current gen’ of the smaller One pedals (C4 onwards). I’d guess the older pedals like aftershock don’t have the required smarts. And the larger pedals are just ‘native midi’ so wouldn’t need this.

 

I bit the bullet and bought the Neuro Hub, but for one or two SA pedals the adaptors would seem a good choice.

 

Some thoughts, there 😃

Edited August 15, 2022 by moley6knipe

[AJ567]

Looks like the new adapter has midi thru! So @fretmeister just needs two of them. Perfect solution. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CgfSvWXAzt-/

 

[moley6knipe]

Ah! Excellent. I don’t know what instagram is so I’ll take your word for it 😬

[fretmeister]

18 minutes ago, moley6knipe said:

Ah! Excellent. I don’t know what instagram is so I’ll take your word for it 😬

it seems to be a product advertising system interspaced with scientifically illiterate “wellness” posts and underfed women bending over wearing thongs.

[moley6knipe]

Really?!? Well, the world’s a twisted place!

[Quatschmacher]

In case anyone missed it, two-way USB communication has now been added to Ventris, Nemesis, Collider and Spectrum. You’ll need to download the latest desktop editor to install the new firmware that supports this new feature on the pedals.

[MichaelJR]

I hope you find the perfect setup to maximize the potential of your Spectrum and Ultrawave pedals, creating even more musical magic together.