peteb Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Supernaut said: Is he playing covers down the Dog & Duck on a Wednesday night? No, at least not in the midlands, but apparently he does play bar gigs around town when he's not touring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, peteb said: I've had this discussion with a guy who's worked in A&R and actively tries to find great new bands - he does not think that there are that many coming through, certainly not compared to previous eras. So that's a reason to dismiss a whole generation because one guy said so? Oh dear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Supernaut said: So that's a reason to dismiss a whole generation because one guy said so? Oh dear. It's his job to know these things and he has a track record of developing young bands that went onto better things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Supernaut said: Is he playing covers down the Dog & Duck on a Wednesday night? No, it's the Ticking Trout now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, mcnach said: No, it's the Ticking Trout now. Are you referring to this place? If so, it brings back some funny memories of this forum a few years back... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Supernaut said: I call it jealousy, pure and simple. Nobody cares about some old codger down the Dog & Duck going through Mustang Sally who states that nobody can match their 'feel'. Sure bud! I couldn't have said it better. I like Berthoud's videos and the fact that he upsets a load of old fuds whenever he posts something always makes the comments section/forum threads quite funny. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I think overall the problem I have the video in the OP and similar ones is that they don't give me what I want to hear from music. That not to say they are good or bad but simply that they have nothing to say to me. Maybe because I class myself as a composer first an arranger second and a musician a long way behind those, that I'm not interested technique so long as it doesn't adversely affect mine or the musicians I work with ability to perform my compositions. For me the best technique is invisible in that it doesn't overshadow the composition or performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BigRedX said: I think overall the problem I have the video in the OP and similar ones is that they don't give me what I want to hear from music. That not to say they are good or bad but simply that they have nothing to say to me. Maybe because I class myself as a composer first an arranger second and a musician a long way behind those, that I'm not interested technique so long as it doesn't adversely affect mine or the musicians I work with ability to perform my compositions. For me the best technique is invisible in that it doesn't overshadow the composition or performance. Personally, I don't think there is good or bad music - only music you like, or dislike. The video offers you nothing, that's cool. We all know what we like and dislike. Who knows, I might really dislike you offerings and it's not for me, or, I may like it, but that's what music is all about...just opinions. As it happens, I think the player in question has writing and arranging skills as well. Obviously not to your liking, but they are certainly there and to me, he does sound like he knows what he is doing. This piece of his could be played by any combination of instruments: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dclaassen Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Supernaut said: Thank you for proving my point. Certainly wasn’t my intention… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 4 hours ago, lowdown said: As it happens, I think the player in question has writing and arranging skills as well. He's just showing off! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, Leonard Smalls said: He's just showing off! 😁 You ain't seen nothing yet...wait to he starts playing the Spitfire Labs 'Foghorn' with his feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 18 hours ago, lowdown said: Personally, I don't think there is good or bad music - only music you like, or dislike. The video offers you nothing, that's cool. We all know what we like and dislike. Who knows, I might really dislike you offerings and it's not for me, or, I may like it, but that's what music is all about...just opinions. As it happens, I think the player in question has writing and arranging skills as well. Obviously not to your liking, but they are certainly there and to me, he does sound like he knows what he is doing. This piece of his could be played by any combination of instruments: What a talented young musician.. If my kids could play an instrument to that technical level and show such an understanding of melody, harmony, rhythm etc, I'd be very proud of them for having invested their time and energy into one of the creative arts. I don't get why anyone would want to knock this guy at all for being a musician who's smart enough to earn a living from it. IMO, as musicians, need to celebrate what we all do to make the world a better place. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford13 Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 38 minutes ago, silverfoxnik said: What a talented young musician.. If my kids could play an instrument to that technical level and show such an understanding of melody, harmony, rhythm etc, I'd be very proud of them for having invested their time and energy into one of the creative arts. I don't get why anyone would want to knock this guy at all for being a musician who's smart enough to earn a living from it. IMO, as musicians, need to celebrate what we all do to make the world a better place. Please let this comment win the day. It's the most sensible comment I have seen in a long time. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, silverfoxnik said: IMO, as musicians, need to celebrate what we all do to make the world a better place. Oi.. who let this nutter in here? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Oi.. who let this nutter in here? He's a regular. There's a few like that. I think music is partially about communication and if the original video speaks to you then who are any of us to question that. However for me, there's a lot going going on and it changes rapidly. It's hard to interpret emotionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Why is everyone just pretending the 'problem' is anything to do with music. He is ginger innit. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 40 minutes ago, Frank Blank said: Why is everyone just pretending the 'problem' is anything to do with music. He is ginger innit. and looks like he could be ed sheerans brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 13/08/2022 at 15:55, lowdown said: Are you referring to this place? If so, it brings back some funny memories of this forum a few years back... That's the one! Tickled Trout not 'ticking' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, mcnach said: That's the one! Tickled Trout not 'ticking' It's alright...I clocked your mistake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, lowdown said: It's alright...I clocked your mistake. It took you a minute, though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: It took you a minute, though. Actually, twenty minutes. It seems old age is catching up on me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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