Dom in Dorset Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I've been working on a g****r and it was nearly finished when I discovered that the truss rod I fitted was faulty. It broke the first time I gave it a quarter turn. A huge amount of work potentially down the drain. I drilled into the pickup cavity and managed to push it out. Now I need to try and get a new one in. Any recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si600 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Unglue the fretboard I fear. The new truss rod may be too big for the existing hole. A professional will be along in a bit to tell you I'm wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, Si600 said: Unglue the fretboard I fear. The new truss rod may be too big for the existing hole. A professional will be along in a bit to tell you I'm wrong The fretboard is bound and as it's 100 year old oak it probably wouldn't survive the process. I'm only going to buy one that stands a chance of fitting. Someone here did the same on a bass so I'm confident that it can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard R Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Calling @Andyjr1515. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I'm struggling a bit here to see what I'm looking at, @Dom in Dorset. Which end was the adjuster at (presumably nut end?) and which way have you removed it (the photo with the drill and where that hammer is is throwing me a bit)? In the bottom pic, are we seeing the rod that has been knocked through from the nut end through a hole you've drilled in the heel end? And if so - and assuming it is a single-rod, one-way trussrod - what's happened to the retainer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGTay Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) @Andyjr1515 From the looks of the pic Andy, that is the drill bit he is knocking with the hammer and he is forcing it out of the nut end. Edited August 13, 2022 by JGTay Adding Andy to the post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGTay Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Guessing it is a dual action truss rod and it needed pushing out from the heel end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, JGTay said: Guessing it is a dual action truss rod and it needed pushing out from the heel end. Probably @Dom in Dorset - is @JGTay right? If so, can you take a shot at what's happening at the nut end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3below Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) Assuming a dual action rod...... If it has come out from the headstock end (without any drama) then drive the new one in from the headstock end, unless I have missed something obvious. Prior to insertion check the welds on the new rod for any 'lumps' that might bind in the channel and grind them down. Round the edges of the fixed end to prevent 'digging in' and wax or PTFE spray the rod. Might be worthwhile getting the same into the channel somehow. Finally, I would give the new rod some hefty adjustments both ways. Better a duffer fails beforehand so be bold. Edited August 14, 2022 by 3below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) It was a dual action truss rod, headstock end adjusted. The nut seems to have come off and is inside the retaining tube. I pushed it out of the nut end by hitting the heal end. Anyway it's out now, I just wanted a recommendation for a reliable replacement. Edited August 14, 2022 by Dom in Dorset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Hi Dom Just spotted your post on TheFretboard and realised it is a two way and that the question is specifically about a recommendation of supplier rather than how to do it (you are clearly well capable of that ) I would recomment Tonetech for a few reasons: - they are simple and have the adjuster directly welded to the rod without the added complication of a shroud - they are, as a result, slim and so should be able to go back in where the last one came out (well done, by the way) - they are - unlike a lot of stuff that Tonetech sells - a reasonable price - I have never had a failure on guitars or basses - including 5 and 6 string basses fitted with a single rod Hope this helps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) Thanks Andy, I'll check out tone tech. Dom Edited August 14, 2022 by Dom in Dorset 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 31 minutes ago, Dom in Dorset said: Thanks Andy, I'll check out time tech. Dom Tonetech (no doubt the joys of autocorrect) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Andyjr1515 said: Tonetech (no doubt the joys of autocorrect) Already corrected! (And ordered) If that doesn't work I will try Timetech, go back and stop myself fitting a dud in the first place 😅 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dom in Dorset said: Already corrected! (And ordered) If that doesn't work I will try Timetech, go back and stop myself fitting a dud in the first place 😅 Great stuff - let us know how it fares. I had a look at your https://www.scavengermusic.co.uk/ website, by the way - great philosophy and some nice builds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 You could always make your own. IIRC Stephen Delft dedicated at least 2 articles of his "Build Your Own Electric Guitar" series in International Musician to how to make your own truss rod from scratch. Unfortunately Muzines don't appear to have the relevant issues scanned and available as PDFs yet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3below Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) Apologies to @Dom in Dorset, I had also misinterpreted the op and with hindsight (looking at the guitar quality) had stated the obvious that you will know. The extraction by drill hole was neat. Edited August 15, 2022 by 3below Spelling :( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Lovely looking guitar. It would be a shame for all that work to go to waste because of a dodgy truss rod. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 14/08/2022 at 08:16, Andyjr1515 said: Great stuff - let us know how it fares. I had a look at your https://www.scavengermusic.co.uk/ website, by the way - great philosophy and some nice builds. Might want to fix the spelling mistake on the homepage though 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Crusoe said: Might want to fix the spelling mistake on the homepage though 😉 Fixed thanks 🙂 I think it was only there since July 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 8 hours ago, BigRedX said: You could always make your own. IIRC Stephen Delft dedicated at least 2 articles of his "Build Your Own Electric Guitar" series in International Musician to how to make your own truss rod from scratch. Unfortunately Muzines don't appear to have the relevant issues scanned and available as PDFs yet... Seriously considering that option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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