Johncee Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Anyone have any experience with these? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153945749521?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UIBzJOIHTQ-&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=CI1PpRHrRV-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudpup Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) Looks like what used to be a Caline one. Loads of people used them with no issues it seems. Having said that, you never quite know what you're getting with generic Chines stuff. Might look the same but.... Personally I would spend a few quid more and get something from Thoman like a Harley Benton or a Fame from DV247 - at least there's some backup if you need it Edited September 11, 2022 by Mudpup 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agedhorse Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 It’s not uncommon to get AC mains frequency feed-through noise on generic power supplies. Can you return it if it doesn’t work out? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ567 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Personally I'd not take the risk and get one of the Harley Benton "ISO" series instead. They're really great and not much more expensive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 19 hours ago, Mudpup said: Looks like what used to be a Caline one. Loads of people used them with no issues it seems. Having said that, you never quite know what you're getting with generic Chines stuff. Might look the same but.... Personally I would spend a few quid more and get something from Thoman like a Harley Benton or a Fame from DV247 - at least there's some backup if you need it If you absolutely want to save every penny and this is the same as the Caline ones (it looks like it is) then go for it. It won't cause you any issues at all. Problems may come if you like adding cheaper pedals, or more expensive and more thirsty pedals. Then you might get some noise bleeding through and having a decent PSU at least rules out that as a source of unwanted noise. I'm on my second Caline PSU. Nothing wrong with the first one, I just gave it to an old friend who's still using it when I went to a massive multi fx unit. I'm now back to separate pedals and I went straight for a Caline PSU because I know it works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johncee Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 Thanks to all for the advice. Went for the cheapest Harley Benton, which seems very nice for the money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I have a Caline PS which I rarely use but wouldn't part with. I think I paid a tenner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 On 12/09/2022 at 11:55, uk_lefty said: If you absolutely want to save every penny and this is the same as the Caline ones (it looks like it is) then go for it. It won't cause you any issues at all. Problems may come if you like adding cheaper pedals, or more expensive and more thirsty pedals. Then you might get some noise bleeding through and having a decent PSU at least rules out that as a source of unwanted noise. I'm on my second Caline PSU. Nothing wrong with the first one, I just gave it to an old friend who's still using it when I went to a massive multi fx unit. I'm now back to separate pedals and I went straight for a Caline PSU because I know it works. Why do you think cheaper pedals might be an issue ? Less power supply noise rejection ? That should really be eliminated in the PSU itself imo. And more expensive pedals ? If they draw more current than the power supply can...errr ... supply, then that's obviously a problem. Bottom line (pun intended 😊). For least potential noise / problems use a supply with properly (galvanically) isolated outputs. That will work well with digital pedals etc. And if not then using individual outputs is better than a daisy chain power cable as it reduces common impedance in the 0V ("Ground") line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 hours ago, rmorris said: Why do you think cheaper pedals might be an issue ? Less power supply noise rejection ? That should really be eliminated in the PSU itself imo. And more expensive pedals ? If they draw more current than the power supply can...errr ... supply, then that's obviously a problem. I'm no techy but when I've had cheaper pedals (Mooer, weirdly named stuff off eBay and Amazon) I've had unwanted pedalboard noise. When I've used Boss, Darkglass etc I haven't. I've always used a cheap power supply. I'm not drawing any conclusion to the exact reason except "cheaper components". If other people don't have these issues, great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agedhorse Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 17 hours ago, uk_lefty said: I'm no techy but when I've had cheaper pedals (Mooer, weirdly named stuff off eBay and Amazon) I've had unwanted pedalboard noise. When I've used Boss, Darkglass etc I haven't. I've always used a cheap power supply. I'm not drawing any conclusion to the exact reason except "cheaper components". If other people don't have these issues, great. Could it also be that the designs aren't as good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 5 hours ago, agedhorse said: Could it also be that the designs aren't as good? Probably, yes. One of, both of, maybe some other factors too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, agedhorse said: Could it also be that the designs aren't as good? Depends what you mean by the design ? - of the circuit itself, its implementation on a pcb and how things are wired, the enclosure wrt shielding. Type and position of the power supply is also a possible factor. Depending on the nature of the 'noise' eh hum / buzz / hiss / general "digital hash" etc... Edited October 7, 2022 by rmorris clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agedhorse Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 19 hours ago, rmorris said: Depends what you mean by the design ? - of the circuit itself, its implementation on a pcb and how things are wired, the enclosure wrt shielding. Type and position of the power supply is also a possible factor. Depending on the nature of the 'noise' eh hum / buzz / hiss / general "digital hash" etc... All of the above. They are all different and more likely the cause of problems than the quality of the components themselves IME. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) General pedalboard noise tip. Avoid the inexpensive patch cables usually in various colours and all coated in plastic including the plug ends. They lack shielding at the plug ends and are monsters for picking up noise. And in a pedalboard context this includes radiated power supply related noise. Edited October 8, 2022 by rmorris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 This ^. It always amazes me when I see guitarist boards with literally thousands of pounds worth of boutique pedals and most of the time they're tied together with the cheapest, nastiest patch cables known to man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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