Jaybeevee Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 The Handbox R400 will fit the Bill. There is a 30 Odd page thread on here. A fav of Andy Irvine, so loads of YouTube stuff to go at too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Jaybeevee said: The Handbox R400 will fit the Bill. There is a 30 Odd page thread on here. A fav of Andy Irvine, so loads of YouTube stuff to go at too. Oo, not heard of these, will go have a look 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Still loving my Mesa M6. Will tick all the criteria in your OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matbard Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 14/01/2023 at 11:30, MrDinsdale said: The Jad Freer stuff looks really impressive, from what I've heard it sounds incredible too and packed with great features/design. Can't afford the amp, or their power amp but still probably going to end up with their Capo preamp pedal in the near future. But the Capo (awesome indeed) is a different preamp than the Sisma has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, matbard said: But the Capo (awesome indeed) is a different preamp than the Sisma has. Yeah the Sisma is modelled on a B15 i think? The Capo just looks like a very versatile and high quality preamp. What i meant was more that I'd love to own all their stuff but I'll settle for the Capo 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 For fun, try out the Bugera Veyron BV1001T, 3 x valve pre and digital out. Rated at 2000w but really around 600w. They are amazing and super cheap. https://www.bugera-amps.com/product.html?modelCode=P0AED https://www.bugera-amps.com/product/review.html?modelCode=P0AED https://www.thomann.de/gb/bugera_bv1001t_veyron_bass_head.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tut Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, andy67 said: For fun, try out the Bugera Veyron BV1001T, 3 x valve pre and digital out. Rated at 2000w but really around 600w. They are amazing and super cheap. https://www.bugera-amps.com/product.html?modelCode=P0AED https://www.bugera-amps.com/product/review.html?modelCode=P0AED https://www.thomann.de/gb/bugera_bv1001t_veyron_bass_head.htm What he said, great amps. Alternatively, if you don’t mind weight and used, try a Hartke LH500 or 1000. Loads of heft and clean valve warmth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ander87 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 10/01/2023 at 15:01, MichaelDean said: I'm surprised I haven't seen an Ashdown ABM mentioned yet! The valve drive on my ABM 600 warms things up nicely. Really flexible EQ too. It should pair nicely with your Barefaced 610 too. I was gonna say extactly this. and this: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) My advice would be for you to get a tube/valve preamp pedal instead. Would give you much more options and flexibility, both in terms of amps and preamps to chose from, and obviously combinations of these, but actually also in terms of tone shaping (dialing in exactly the EQ and amount of tube saturation e.t.c you want). Though of course the choice is entirely up to you. Edited January 25, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I recently picked up a good tube preamp , it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I used to use a tube preamps (EHX English Muff'n, later the EBS Valvedrive) as a means to add warmth to certain amps. They generally worked well but I actually found them to be a bit annoying and superfluous when gigging. It was another bit of kit, more fragile than a normal pedal, generally requiring a different power supply (12v AC) from the rest of my pedals. The tonal benefits were often so subtle that the audience wouldn't be able to tell the difference between those pedals and a comparatively bomb-proof Sansamp Bass Driver. Absolutely loved the valve preamp pedals when recording though and I still own them. I think I generally prefer a really nice amp which does my basic clean(ish) tone and I will just use a standard non-valve pedal to add dirt. In one form or another my Mesa Walkabout and EBS Fafner haven't failed me in nearly 14 years. If I was ditching them I would probably go either Helix or 'amp in a box' Origin Effects Bass Rig and FRFR speaker or go the complete opposite and just buy a Matamp GT200/Ampeg SVT/Orange AD200 and 4x10! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I'd second this approach; I had a LMIII for a while, but its' inherent smoothness and politeness wasn't my cup of Darjeeling, so I added a preamp pedal to rough things up a bit. After a while I realised I never switched the preamp pedal off, so I looked for an amp that would sound the same as both together, and save the hassle of an extra piece of kit, power supply, lead, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBass3901 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 19/01/2023 at 22:38, Ander87 said: I'm always in awe of this rig. Love the look of the anniversary edition with the Barefaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 Ashdown feedback...having has to use the 600w Ashdown head at SKegness the other weekend through an Ashdown 2x15 cab, I was expecting something decent, boy was I disappointed, had to dime the input gain and master volume to get somewhere close to audible, underwhelmed.com presumably there was summat amiss with the rig but as it was festival backline it wasn't my place to tinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAS Bass Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, andydye said: Ashdown feedback...having has to use the 600w Ashdown head at SKegness the other weekend through an Ashdown 2x15 cab, I was expecting something decent, boy was I disappointed, had to dime the input gain and master volume to get somewhere close to audible, underwhelmed.com presumably there was summat amiss with the rig but as it was festival backline it wasn't my place to tinker Doesn't sound right. I regularly use an ABM 500 and Berg 215 and it punches like a mule. Sounds like a typical festival/house backline issue and could have been: compressor on or turned up (will reduce output), shape button engaged (no mids), EQ disengaged (big vol drop) or a horrible mixture of these issues. Maybe, dare I say, shagged out gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Well i had a play on a VBA400 last night at practice and its an absolute beast. Still not sure that it was good enough to warrant carting it about and maintaining an all valve head vs my GK Fusion S but annoyingly as soon as I started playing everyone in the band just turned and said "That's the sound right there". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I have an older GenzBenz Steamliner that has a three tube pre. It certainly warms and thickens the Class D back end. I sent it off to California when I heard agedhorse was still doing service work on them so it’s like a brand new amp today. Sometimes you see Streamliners go for very reasonable money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, msb said: I have an older GenzBenz Steamliner that has a three tube pre. It certainly warms and thickens the Class D back end. I sent it off to California when I heard agedhorse was still doing service work on them so it’s like a brand new amp today. Sometimes you see Streamliners go for very reasonable money. I'm sure the Bugera BV1001T is a copy of the Streamliner, @agedhorse will definitely know Edited January 25, 2023 by andy67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, andydye said: Ashdown feedback...having has to use the 600w Ashdown head at SKegness the other weekend through an Ashdown 2x15 cab, I was expecting something decent, boy was I disappointed, had to dime the input gain and master volume to get somewhere close to audible, underwhelmed.com presumably there was summat amiss with the rig but as it was festival backline it wasn't my place to tinker 1 hour ago, NAS Bass said: Doesn't sound right. I regularly use an ABM 500 and Berg 215 and it punches like a mule. Sounds like a typical festival/house backline issue and could have been: compressor on or turned up (will reduce output), shape button engaged (no mids), EQ disengaged (big vol drop) or a horrible mixture of these issues. Maybe, dare I say, shagged out gear. Probably the cab. Put them with a decent cab (Berg, Barefaced, et al) and they are epic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Merton said: Probably the cab. Put them with a decent cab (Berg, Barefaced, et al) and they are epic I suspected the cab initially but the head had nothing to give either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 4 hours ago, andydye said: Ashdown feedback...having has to use the 600w Ashdown head at SKegness the other weekend through an Ashdown 2x15 cab, I was expecting something decent, boy was I disappointed, had to dime the input gain and master volume to get somewhere close to audible, underwhelmed.com presumably there was summat amiss with the rig but as it was festival backline it wasn't my place to tinker Def something wrong there Andy, the Ashdown I used at Skegness was an ABM500 through an Ashdown 215 cab and I didn’t need to push that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ander87 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 hours ago, BruceBass3901 said: I'm always in awe of this rig. Love the look of the anniversary edition with the Barefaced. ah shucks mate, ta… but I’m about to bring home an Ampeg V4b this Friday… 👀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ander87 said: ah shucks mate, ta… but I’m about to bring home an Ampeg V4b this Friday… 👀 That’s what I use Ander with a BB2 , lovely tone 👌 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ander87 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, Reggaebass said: That’s what I use Ander with a BB2 , lovely tone 👌 Hmmmm! My only grit is finding out whether the V4b can pull loud with the Six10, I'd be inclined to think so but some folk on the internets are saying it's not as loud... (trying them with 2x12s and 4x12s, that is). I'd just really want to see it get better than the ABM 600, which in my mind is very complicated, but then again I've polished my basses pedals and cabinet so looking whether it's possible to improve the bass head without spending much money...! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 One nice thing about the V4B is that they tend to get pushed all the way because they’re only a hundred watts. They do get fairly loud. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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