bnt Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I didn't think it was possible to go an octave below standard bass without the sound turning to mud, but Nate had Lignum make him a multiscale 4-string with the Low E0 at 42 inches: Nate's not a small guy at six foot frack knows, but it really does look playable by mere mortals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Not for me thanks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) If the body design "pulls" to the player's right, it'll help the reach for F0, but nonetheless.. I guess string choice is problematic though. Edit- are those flats from an upright, perchance? Edited January 14, 2023 by Lfalex v1.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) I love the Lignum stuff...guitars, housebuilding, construction. When they reroofed the old building on the island, it was stunning. All brilliant. Concerning the bass, this is the Lignum build video. Strings on that are tapered rounds, god knows who make them. Piano strings maybe? Edited January 14, 2023 by NancyJohnson Big edits...whole post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I have a lot of time for Nate - but that just sounds a bit crap! Looks good though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Flap City! Bet Fieldy would love that thing. I’ll have to listen to it on my speaker when I get a chance, it’s mushy on my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Kalium Strings will make any length. As will Newtone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnt Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 Thanks for the build video - should be v. inneresting. They don't say which strings are on there, but with those gauges I'd go to Kalium for e.g. a 0.256" E. (A 1/4 inch jack is 0.250", for comparison!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Remember not to listen to this on anything without good bass response, forget any laptop/phone speakers. My AKG headphones can't handle the fundamentals so i'll grab my Sony later and fully expect my brain to melt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Machines said: Remember not to listen to this on anything without good bass response, forget any laptop/phone speakers. My AKG headphones can't handle the fundamentals so i'll grab my Sony later and fully expect my brain to melt. (thinks) The Fundamental of E0 is 20.5Hz, right? A decent pair of headphones should do that justice- assuming that it's present on the original recording. I can't comment on IEM bandwidth, but little buds are unlikely to reach that low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Are there any bass cabs that go down to 20hz? I can’t think of any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 YouTube's compression algorithms will have removed most of the low frequencies anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I know that. I’m thinking for live use. Lots of modest priced PA don’t do E0 very well either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Sounds terrible and will finish off many speakers.👎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, Grahambythesea said:will finish off many speakers.👎 Ooer matron… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnt Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Grahambythesea said: Sounds terrible and will finish off many speakers.👎 Oh yeah, you need RMS limiters on the PA. In the video, Nate tries it through Porcupine Tree's PA ... 🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I have a 36" scale 6 string strung with a bottom F# which is a tone above E0. It is epic for the end of songs to play the octave below. It is also great to be able to play the 4th below as an upbeat to the root of the chord on the B string. Having a 6th string makes my brain melt, but that is a different problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Surely just get a Boss OC-5, or whatever your particular low end pedal of choice is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Hughes Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 But where’s the spirit of adventure then? (And don’t call him Shirley) 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 No Horrible sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, fleabag said: No Horrible sound Whereas an octave pedal generally sounds pretty good when used judiciously. @Gareth Hughes I agree no adventure (or massive outlay) involved in getting an octave pedal, haha! But consensus seems to be for Nathan on this one occasion: venit vidit ad cacas. He can however play! Edited January 18, 2023 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Sounds absolutely dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Hughes Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Sorry Al, I just wanted to get the ‘Shirley’ line in. Absolutely agree that an octave pedal is a) better sounding and b) much more practical than a 42’ scale bass. (I do admire the ‘sure why not?’ attitude of making it though.) Side note: what does the Latin translate to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gareth Hughes said: Sorry Al, I just wanted to get the ‘Shirley’ line in. Absolutely agree that an octave pedal is a) better sounding and b) much more practical than a 42’ scale bass. (I do admire the ‘sure why not?’ attitude of making it though.) Side note: what does the Latin translate to? Ah Shirley up to you work that one out? Enjoy 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnt Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 I’m not going to comment on the tone as it is, filtered through YouTube audio compression and the two different sets of cheap headphones I use. I want to hear that beast through a 1000W RMS amp driving some 24” subs. Though “hear” might be the wrong word. If my shirt sleeves aren’t flapping at 20 Hz, like sails ina stiff breeze, it’s not loud enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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