Happy Jack Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 The "foam" they use for this isn't like packing foam, or even the 'pluck & shape' hard foam that you get in flight cases and similar. This is a far more rubbery extruded stuff, higher density, much greater tensile strength. It's designed to be easily removed and replaced at will, but the little curlicues at each end of the 'f' are inevitably a weak spot. Once installed, my feeling is to just leave them in there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blartfactor10 Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 You won’t cover the full F hole on a Pfretzschner but you can make plugs big enough to stop feedback in most situations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunion Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) I’d be thinking about making a silicone mould easy enough to get the materials and then casting some with a nice flange and grab handle on this stuff if you want fairly flexible would do the trick or PX60 if you want it less flexible you can also add pigment to choose your colour Edited January 17, 2023 by Bunion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Blartfactor10 said: Well done Beedster, an actual bargain IMO, mines a round back with a deuce bridge and yes, it sounds different to a carved/ply bass but with a bit of work, (F hole foam) and some common sense you can get them to sound pretty much in the ball park. If you have any questions about my experience with my Pfretzschners just pm me 😉 That’s very kind of you @Blartfactor10, I suspect I will be a regular name in your PM inbox 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bunion said: I’d be thinking about making a silicone mould easy enough to get the materials and then casting some with a nice flange and grab handle on this stuff if you want fairly flexible would do the trick or PX60 if you want it less flexible you can also add pigment to choose your colour Thanks mate, in the good old days we simply used socks 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Bluejay Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Regarding feedback, as per @Happy Jack's question above, I can only remember us having trouble once in a pub in WGC, when we set up with our powerful MarkAudio PA and a complete set of floor wedges for monitoring. One of the wedges necessarily had to be pointing directly at the oildrum ali DB. 🙄 We don't set up like that now - Jack's monitoring is a lot subtler and, cleverly, a lot higher (on a tripod, behind him, at head height!). Also, I'm now pretty good at fighting feedback by throwing the full sound-engineering bag of tricks at it. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Silvia Bluejay said: Regarding feedback, as per @Happy Jack's question above, I can only remember us having trouble once in a pub in WGC, when we set up with our powerful MarkAudio PA and a complete set of floor wedges for monitoring. One of the wedges necessarily had to be pointing directly at the oildrum ali DB. 🙄 We don't set up like that now - Jack's monitoring is a lot subtler and, cleverly, a lot higher (on a tripod, behind him, at head height!). Also, I'm now pretty good at fighting feedback by throwing the full sound-engineering bag of tricks at it. 😉 Does that bag of tricks include a feedback destroyer like the Feedback Ferret? I've got one of these, but havent got around to trying it on double bass. I find the notch filter on my pre-amp is usually good enough at stopping it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Bluejay Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, pete.young said: Does that bag of tricks include a feedback destroyer like the Feedback Ferret? I've got one of these, but havent got around to trying it on double bass. I find the notch filter on my pre-amp is usually good enough at stopping it. No, it includes gain, volume, compression or lack of them, EQ work and a by now quite well trained pair of ears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 9 hours ago, pete.young said: Does that bag of tricks include a feedback destroyer like the Feedback Ferret? I've got one of these, but havent got around to trying it on double bass. I find the notch filter on my pre-amp is usually good enough at stopping it. My lot are keen to use that tech on my DB, I'd be keen to know how many people are using it successfully on DB, my gut feel has always been to adopt the @Silvia Bluejay approach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns-bass Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I’m intrigued at this thread. The aluminium bass with the crazy bridge above looks like something from the future!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, Beedster said: My lot are keen to use that tech on my DB, I'd be keen to know how many people are using it successfully on DB, my gut feel has always been to adopt the @Silvia Bluejay approach? Chris, I have a feedback destroyer which I *think* used to be @Happy Jack's which is not in use any more, if you'd like me to send more details over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Jakester said: Chris, I have a feedback destroyer which I *think* used to be @Happy Jack's which is not in use any more, if you'd like me to send more details over? Please do mate, thank you 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Luckily enough, feedback turns out to be a renewable resource so all this wanton 'feedback destruction' does not represent a problem for humanity's long-term future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: Luckily enough, feedback turns out to be a renewable resource so all this wanton 'feedback destruction' does not represent a problem for humanity's long-term future. A rather philosophical take Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I have started a relevant Mega Thread.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: Luckily enough, feedback turns out to be a renewable resource so all this wanton 'feedback destruction' does not represent a problem for humanity's long-term future. I've taken a more benevolent approach now and release it back into the wild.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 17/01/2023 at 09:14, Beedster said: @Happy Jack what's the feedback like on your aluminium bass compared to a typical wooden version? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: Should I read anything into that Jack? 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Yes. You're gonna need a bigger spatula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Cue spatula cartoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 It's arrived, more details/pics in the mega thread 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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