lidl e Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 About to order up all the cabling for my board. Velcro, ties, etc as well. Is there anything i shouldnt forget? Ive got the board, power supply, an expression pedal or two, and of course my pedals. i might get a few toppers for some smaller pedals as well. Flat cables or roundies? Will i regret getting all harley benton cables? I can spend about 6 quid per patch cable id say budget wise as i think im going to need about 30 of varying sizes. I want to get it all in one shot so i dont forget anything and have to pay to ship one or two bits i didnt think of. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, lidl e said: Velcro How about low profile Dual Lock. There are a few Dual Lock products - the one I have is called "SJ4575". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Take a look at different pedalboards in the thread. Even looking them may give you hints of what is needed, or should be done. Flat cable plug needs less space than... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I swapped over to EBS flat cables. They seem to have the smallest plugs on them. Got me a few extra inches over the full board. Regarding the power supply - have you checked the current draw of the pedals you are going to use? You need to make sure that each pedal can draw what it needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, fretmeister said: I swapped over to EBS flat cables. They seem to have the smallest plugs on them. Got me a few extra inches over the full board. Regarding the power supply - have you checked the current draw of the pedals you are going to use? You need to make sure that each pedal can draw what it needs. Yeah, i think i'm alright on the power draw! None of my pedals exceeds the "port" they are plugged into. I do have one pedal rhat takes 18v 300 mah, but this only puts out 220mah in the 18v slot so ill have to use the adapter plugged in seperately. I went for the harley benton power supply. the pro 10AC pro as it had a USB port which i need to run a midi adapter. So flat cables, yeah? Those EBS do look good. is that the same EBS that has made those pedals? I assume it must be. I have an apparently incorrect idea that flat cable aren't as good. Strictly in my head i'd guess. I don't even think i've ever seen a comaprison. Edited January 17, 2023 by lidl e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 Here's a question. If i use a cable that combines two 9v outlets into one 18 and they are 250 mah each, does it double it to 500 mah as well as 18v? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, lidl e said: Here's a question. If i use a cable that combines two 9v outlets into one 18 and they are 250 mah each, does it double it to 500 mah as well as 18v? I think this is equivalent to a batteries in series vs in parallel question. So my understanding is that doing that will double voltage, but your mah will stay at 250mah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Al Krow said: I think this is equivalent to a batteries in series vs in parallel question. So my understanding is that doing that will double voltage, but your mah will stay at 250mah. Ok, i have the option of 9v at 450mah so i can use those. Its for the M2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lidl e said: Ok, i have the option of 9v at 450mah so i can use those. Its for the M2! That does have an 18V power supply with it - is that not convenient? I guess you're using one PSU for your whole board? PS Recommend checking out the Harley Benton IsoPro PSUs - fantastic value and pretty slimline to fit under most pedal boards, with provided switch options for 9V/12/18V on a couple of the outputs. Edited January 17, 2023 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Al Krow said: That does have an 18V power supply with it - is that not convenient? I guess you're using one PSU for your whole board? Exactly. Now look at this, it is a switchable port 9/12/18 but says 450 mah underneath. The product page on thomann says Output 7 - 10: switchable 9/12/18 V DC @ max. 9 V @ 450 mA / 12 V @ 330 mA / 18 V @ 220 mA (individually isolated) So it looks like on those ports the mah goes down as the voltage is switched up. Youd thunk it would say that on the tin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I guess the mA halving as the voltage doubles follows from what we were discussing earlier. But, yes, it would be helpful for them to spell out the right current with each voltage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Al Krow said: I guess the mA halving as the voltage doubles follows from what we were discussing earlier. But, yes, it would be helpful for them to spell out the right current with each voltage. Im glad i started this thread! I was running the M2 with too low of mah! Now im staring at my powersupply figuring out what will go where. Even doubling up the two ports i think l still have more than enough room. Edited January 17, 2023 by lidl e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Don't so what i did and place all my pedals on, cut all the wires to length etc only to realise there wasn't enough space between some of the pedals to safely stomp them individually. The EBS patch cables are fantastic, much smaller profile that the custom ones i soldered too and they come in enough sizes that for most boards you can minimise mess excess wiring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Another shout for EBS flat patch cables. You'll regret getting Harley Benton ones. I've got the EBS flats on all my boards, thoroughly recommend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Buy cheap, buy twice. Good quality patch cables are a must. I once A/B'ed one of my brother's cheap ones and a George L one - the difference in tone was staggering! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GremlinAndy Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I too went for EBS flat patch cables. Highly recommended. They’re small so save space on the board (that’s value in its own right), sound great and are very well made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) You all have convinced me. Flat EBS it is. Counting up what i need, i think it's not as many as i initially thought so i can spend a bit more. Edited January 18, 2023 by lidl e 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Anyone tried the "high performance" ebs flat cables? Debating which to order as i need a couple more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, MrDinsdale said: Anyone tried the "high performance" ebs flat cables? Debating which to order as i need a couple more. Get the regular ones. There's a lot of crap spouted about cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Yeah pretty much what I thought although they do look prettier 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, fretmeister said: Get the regular ones. There's a lot of crap spouted about cables. Yep especially when they're this short. I have the regular ones; they're great and save a heap of space Edited January 18, 2023 by lonestar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) With that many outputs on the power supply, I'm guessing you won't be daisy chaining anything. But in case anyone else is reading this thread for ideas - if you've got a daisy chain with more plugs than you've got pedals, avoid mishaps by finding something to cover the spares plugs. More info here: Edited January 18, 2023 by MartinB Typo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDinsdale Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, MartinB said: With that many outputs on the power supply, I'm guessing you won't be daisy chaining anything. But in case anyone else is reading this thread for ideas - if you've got a daisy chain with more plugs than you've got pedals, avoid mishaps by finding something to cover the spares plugs. More info here: Thats a very good shout! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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