Burns-bass Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 This bass is all original, apart from changed pickups or scratch late, or tuners, or bridge. How many times do I see this? I messaged a seller and he said “it’s all original, apart from a refinish”, which would inevitably (if done properly) necessitate the removal of the pickups and wiring. Its a small thing, but language matters! Apologies for the rant, but the cat didn’t know what I was talking about. 4 Quote
Doctor J Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Like "vintage" and "rare", it has lost all meaning aside from something to catch the eye of a desperate buyer. Get all three words together in the same ad and you should win a prize. Other personal favourites include "L@@K!!!" "Matsumoku" and the wonderful "golden era" 1 1 Quote
Jakester Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Burns-bass said: This bass is all original, apart from changed pickups or scratch late, or tuners, or bridge. How many times do I see this? I messaged a seller and he said “it’s all original, apart from a refinish”, which would inevitably (if done properly) necessitate the removal of the pickups and wiring. Its a small thing, but language matters! Apologies for the rant, but the cat didn’t know what I was talking about. Yep, I saw one 70’s Jazz advertised as all original, but it had been refinished, the pickups rewound, the pots replaced, oh, and potentially the neck wasn’t original either. 🙄 The thing was basically Trigger’s Broom… Edited January 30, 2023 by Jakester Quote
Jakester Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doctor J said: Like "vintage" and "rare", it has lost all meaning aside from something to catch the eye of a desperate buyer. Get all three words together in the same ad and you should win a prize. Other personal favourites include "L@@K!!!" "Matsumoku" and the wonderful "golden era" “Those who know, know” 1 1 Quote
Doctor J Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Also, if you're looking at this original, vintage and rare instrument from the golden era of Matsumoku, then you already know what you are looking at. Why explain it, so? 😂 Quote
Mykesbass Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Doctor J said: Like "vintage" and "rare", it has lost all meaning aside from something to catch the eye of a desperate buyer. Get all three words together in the same ad and you should win a prize. Other personal favourites include "L@@K!!!" "Matsumoku" and the wonderful "golden era" Lawsuit 🤨 1 2 Quote
MacDaddy Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 To quote Lister from Red Dwarf "that guitar is a genuine Gibson Les Paul copy". 2 4 Quote
Grahambythesea Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Doctor J said: Like "vintage" and "rare", it has lost all meaning aside from something to catch the eye of a desperate buyer. Get all three words together in the same ad and you should win a prize. Other personal favourites include "L@@K!!!" "Matsumoku" and the wonderful "golden era" And add “law suit” there weren’t really that many! Quote
Old Man Riva Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Don’t actually have too much of a problem with the “all original apart from…” language - I’ve probably used it myself at times! Other than it being a bit mangled on the grammar front it does seem a fairly straightforward way of referencing what’s what on an instrument. Nothing really winds me up language-wise musically other than people referring to an instrument as “she”. 7 Quote
theplumber Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 48 minutes ago, Old Man Riva said: Don’t actually have too much of a problem with the “all original apart from…” language - I’ve probably used it myself at times! Other than it being a bit mangled on the grammar front it does seem a fairly straightforward way of referencing what’s what on an instrument. Nothing really winds me up language-wise musically other than people referring to an instrument as “she”. Can you refer to anything as ''she'' now? It's a bit of a ''pc'' minefield...... 2 1 Quote
TheGreek Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 There's a guitar strap seller from Oz on eBay. All his straps are "unique " with up to 20 available. I mailed him this comment - he missed the irony in it. 1 Quote
Guest Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 It's like those car ads, "good condition...for age". Is it flipping good condition or not? The moment a seller starts qualifying a statement with weasel words you know its time to move on the the next advert. Quote
Ed_S Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Always confuses me (in a "I know why, but still..." sort of way) when I see a guitar or bass that's of a certain vintage being advertised for sale, and it's clearly survived quite happily in one piece for many tens of years, so the first thing that happens to it in the shop is that somebody dismantles it completely to prove just how left-alone it was until they tore it apart. But they have to be able to say with confidence that it's all original. Quote
Waddo Soqable Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Old Man Riva said: Nothing really winds me up language-wise musically other than people referring to an instrument as “she”. I've always thought it stupid when people do that with cars too.. Its a Metal Box ffs! 4 Quote
fleabag Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Silly and ultra cheesy. Calling a lump of wood or a car ' her ' Why not 'him ' ? Actually, either is as sad as the other. Inanimate objects don't have a gender. 2 Quote
Waddo Soqable Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, fleabag said: Silly and ultra cheesy. Calling a lump of wood or a car ' her ' Why not 'him ' ? Actually, either is as sad as the other. Inanimate objects don't have a gender. Yep.. That's what "it" is for..! 😁 Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, fleabag said: Silly and ultra cheesy. Calling a lump of wood or a car ' her ' Why not 'him ' ? Actually, either is as sad as the other. Inanimate objects don't have a gender. It depends on what language you are speaking. In Welsh and French, for example, all objects are gendered. English's supposedly lost this with Middle English, but in practice it's hung on and been influenced by languages like French. Quote
Guest Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, fleabag said: Actually, either is as sad as the other. Inanimate objects don't have a gender. Not even Action Man? Action Thing doesn't have the same sales appeal. Quote
fleabag Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) It depends on what language you are speaking. In Welsh and French, for example, all objects are gendered. English's supposedly lost this with Middle English, but in practice it's hung on and been influenced by languages like French. ------------------------------------------------------ Yes i agree - possibly Italian has this too ? Edited January 30, 2023 by fleabag Quote
fleabag Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bassfinger said: Not even Action Man? Action Thing doesn't have the same sales appeal. I know you're trying to be hilarious, but Action Man was designed with a gender, like Barbie dolls. A guitar wasnt Quote
Dad3353 Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Old Man Riva said: ... people referring to an instrument as “she”. It's an expression of endearment, usually. I have several guitars, basses, drum kits etc... Only a couple of them get the term 'she'; those I hold most dear. One could say the same of pet animals, really. Goldfish and bats are 'it'; fluffy kittens and gun dogs are 'he/she'. It's not really a gender thing at all; when a friendly dog approaches a stranger, there will often result a 'Who's a good boy, then, eh..?' Whether a male or female dog matters little. It's of no consequence, really; just a matter of personal affectivity (or not...). My car, for instance, is 'it'; the old 403 ambulance I once had was definitely a 'she'; costly to run and capricious, but I was saddened to part with her. Edited January 30, 2023 by Dad3353 Quote
Waddo Soqable Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: It's an expression of endearment, usually. I have several guitars, basses, drum kits etc... Only a couple of them get the term 'she'; those I hold most dear. One could say the same of pet animals, really. Goldfish and bats are 'it'; fluffy kittens and gun dogs are 'he/she'. It's not really a gender thing at all; when a friendly dog approaches a stranger, there will often result a 'Who's a good boy, then, eh..?' Whether a male or female dog matters little. It's of no consequence, really; just a matter of personal affectivity (or not...). My car, for instance, is 'it'; the old 403 ambulance I once had was definitely a 'she'; costly to run and capricious, but I was saddened to part with her. Blimey, you had a pet Bat.. That's proper Goth that is.... Quote
Dad3353 Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Waddo Soqable said: Blimey, you had a pet Bat.. That's proper Goth that is.... No, you fool; any goldfish or bat, whether kept as a pet or in the wild, would, for most people be 'it'. I have never had either as pets or ... Oh, what's the use..! ... 1 Quote
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