fretmeister Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 https://www.thomann.de/gb/tech_21_sansamp_psa_2.0_preamp_pedal.htm bit of a bargain is that! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 That’s a ridiculous deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 I’m hoping they’ve got some left when I’ve been paid again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyder Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Thank you. Just bought it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 That's crazy and very timely, thank you! Just ordered one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I got one too, was looking for something similar so see if that fits the bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Hughes Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 And bought - cheers for that. Been wanting a Bassman sound in this format for a while. Worth it for that alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyder Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) Sending mine back, it far too noisy. I don't understand why manufacturers make products that hiss. Drives me mad.😡 Edited March 3, 2023 by spyder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskit_case Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 03/03/2023 at 14:18, spyder said: Sending mine back, it far too noisy. I don't understand why manufacturers make products that hiss. Drives me mad.😡 Shame, do they cover cost of return or is that down to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Got mine today, gave it a spin at lunch, sounds great. Will have to spend some time with it tonight. A lot smaller than I thought it was, which is handy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech21NYC Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 03/03/2023 at 09:18, spyder said: Sending mine back, it far too noisy. I don't understand why manufacturers make products that hiss. Drives me mad.😡 What were you plugging the unit into? The unit is analog but has very low self noise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) On 03/03/2023 at 15:18, spyder said: Sending mine back, it far too noisy. I don't understand why manufacturers make products that hiss. Drives me mad.😡 I am sure they don't do this a conscious design choice, and also fairly certain that either your unit is faulty, that is not working as intended, or that you don't use a proper isolated and filtered powersupply and that the unit it self isn't actually the source of the noise you are hearing. Edited March 7, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyder Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: I am sure they don't do this a conscious design choice, and also fairly certain that either your unit is faulty, that is not working as intended, or that you don't use a proper isolated and filtered powersupply and that the unit it self isn't actually the source of the noise you are hearing. I used the power supply that came with the unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyder Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 On 06/03/2023 at 15:02, Tech21NYC said: What were you plugging the unit into? The unit is analog but has very low self noise. Bass into the unit and put to an Acoustic Image Clarus amp. When the bass is plugged into the amp direct there is no noise. When the unit is put between the bass and amp there is hiss that varies with which patch is used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech21NYC Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, spyder said: Bass into the unit and put to an Acoustic Image Clarus amp. When the bass is plugged into the amp direct there is no noise. When the unit is put between the bass and amp there is hiss that varies with which patch is used. The PSA 2.0 is a preamp and not a typical stompbox pedal. If going into the front end of an amp the amp should be set for flat response or try bypassing the preamp section of your amplifier and plugging into the effects return jack of your amp. Please note that on many amps this will bypass the master volume control so take care. The majority of presets in the unit are for lead guitar. Presets 30-39 were written for bass guitar so I would start with those. The PSA has an all analog signal path and responds much like a vintage tube amp. It has no noise gate. Higher settings of Drive and high end will produce more noise relative to cleaner amp settings with more flat EQ. Even if a preset "seems" noisy in a quiet room, the signal to noise level is such that when playing (and guitar volume is full up) you will hear no noise. The other thing is that the pedal should be gain staged properly with your system when going into the front end of an amp. This means the volume level of your presets should be the same as your bypassed (preset 00) level. Edited March 7, 2023 by Tech21NYC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 It’s as said above - if you pop it infront be prepared for noise unless you properly tweak, but of course that’s the beauty - take a preset, patch it to an empty slot and tweak to your settings and then save some of the guitar sounds work very very well for bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Also remember, the dials are sensitive, small turns each time and re-assess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I have had a chance to play it properly and I was very impressed, it has very useable sounds (and I hadn't even got to the bass presets at the time!). Sure some of the high gain ones hiss, but that is the way with high gain, the normal gain presets don't. I think it is one that I need to spend a bit of time with working out what stuff does though as it isn't totally apparent, and the controls do all interact with each other. Anyway, very happy with it. In fact just need to get chorus / echo and pitch shift and I can get rid of the hxfx! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Impressed with mine, and fun to hear some sounds I remember dreaming of when I was younger and poorer Add a little reverb, and it goes a long way. Really good clean/low gain/crunch sounds especially. It's funny comparing it to a modern digital unit. The digital one sounds great, but the PSA really sounds like a combo amplifier mic'd closely... It's not a better/worse situation, just a different thing. I need to experiment with it and using an external cab sim, but I have no real complaints. And it's tiny! Love it. I haven't experimented a lot with it on bass, but what I have sounded very nice. Put a compressor on the front, direct to desk, sounds great. I'm (slowly) building a IEM solution with bass, based around a Zoom B6 and a BackBeat unit... but I don't use much in terms of FX in most of the gigs I play, so teh PSA might be a great substitute and make the whole thing much more portable. I could fit the PSA, the minimixer, tuner and compressor on a small board, and probably have room for an additional pedal. No real noise issues here, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I put mine in high gain on the last practice so it was really dirty and feeding back - when it did the guitarist kept going to his amp to check what was going on! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallBTB Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Before I start hunting for a programmable bass driver DI, would this be a better option for the price ? Are the tones comparable / available on this? Thanks in advance ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech21NYC Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 The PSA 2.0 sounds great on bass but it's a very different pedal from our Bass Driver DI. If you go to our YT channel there are a number of clips of the unit on bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASW Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 I use the plugin a lot when mixing songs if the bass sound is a bit flat and bland. I've just bought the PSA 2.0 to experiment with it live for both bass and guitar. I couldn't pass it up at that price! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpaws Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I’m disappointed to have missed this deal…maybe there’ll be more similar soon. Is the blowout because a new version is coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thunderpaws said: I’m disappointed to have missed this deal…maybe there’ll be more similar soon. Is the blowout because a new version is coming? I doubt it. It hasn't been out long. Thomann do this sort of thing every now and again. You have to be ready though as the blow out stuff sells really fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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