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11 minutes ago, SamIAm said:

Damn you @dave_bass5, having missed one here on BC I've been 'forced' to do the same; it is projected to land tomorrow.

Perhaps we can compare notes :) 

Sam x

All part of the Basschat service. You cant come on here and not expect to have your money spent 😂.

First thing ill do is shake mine lol.

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33 minutes ago, SamIAm said:

Damn you @dave_bass5, having missed one here on BC I've been 'forced' to do the same; it is projected to land tomorrow.

Perhaps we can compare notes :) 

Sam x

I see Amazon are now quoting delivery in months. High five to us lol. 

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4 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

I see Amazon are now quoting delivery in months. High five to us lol. 

When I ordered they said one remaining.  phew!

Sam x

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Amazingly my the B2 four was just dropped off ... I was not expcting it for another 4 hours!

Seems solid, like the small size ... but it does have a 'rattle' when shaken as mentioned earlier.

Now to figure out how to use it and set up some patches and see if I like the sound.

I found a long but deep youtube about using it.

 

Sam x

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I've seen that video. I found it quite irritating as although it's helpful it's a bit repetitive. 

 

When I got my first one I found it quite easy to get going with it after a few mins. 

 

Good luck. 

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Just had my first rehearsal with the B2-Four. Seems to work really well. I prefer this over the B1-Four and my old B3(n). 

 

What really surprised me was i had it running off a small power bank and it seemed to drop around 10% per hour. So i went home with still just over 60% charge. Not as convenient as having internal batteries but i might use this rather than the supplied PSU. 

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On 08/05/2024 at 23:20, dave_bass5 said:

Just had my first rehearsal with the B2-Four. Seems to work really well. I prefer this over the B1-Four and my old B3(n). 

 

What really surprised me was i had it running off a small power bank and it seemed to drop around 10% per hour. So i went home with still just over 60% charge. Not as convenient as having internal batteries but i might use this rather than the supplied PSU. 

 

You finding it's sounding better than your B1-4?

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7 hours ago, Al Krow said:

 

You finding it's sounding better than your B1-4?

Yeah, it sounds a bit clearer and more open. Seems to have a bit more punch to it. I did a few A/B comparisons at home with headphones. Not sure the difference is as noticeable with the band though. 

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3 hours ago, DaleASmith said:

Looking at the effects list I'm thinking the expression pedal is very limit in what it can control.

 

I would have hoped they'd take inspiration for the Helix and make any parameter controllable...

Yeah, it’s a bit of a step back from my Helix Stomp. I miss the ability to turn off one effect and turn on another with one switch. 

I do like that becuse it is more basic i wont want to keep tweaking it. I found i got bogged down in all the possibilities with the Helix and my playing suffered a bit. 

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Should add, the comparison between the two Zoom’s was done with the DI engaged on the B2-four. 
This section has surprised me. I wasn’t interested in the slightest before getting it, but now i find it indispensable. It’s a cool feature. Not sure it’s worth wasting a foot switch on it though. I’d be happy to just a global on or off. 

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16 minutes ago, PaulThePlug said:

Noise inside... ribbon cable knocking about? 

A spring apparently. It’s loose but not detached. Seems like a few others have it, some saying back to last year when it came out. 
 

Not my video but this is the sound I’m hearing as well. 
 

 

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On TalkBass it is said (I believe it was confirmed) that the rattling noise is coming from those plastic 'cursor' foot-switches. Try shaking it while putting pressure on those switches to test/confirm this?

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3 minutes ago, BEADist said:

On TalkBass it is said (I believe it was confirmed) that the rattling noise is coming from those plastic 'cursor' foot-switches. Try shaking it while putting pressure on those switches to test/confirm this?

I tried that (saw the post you mention) but it’s not that. Or at least i couldn’t get it to stop by covering the foot switches. 

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I’m sending my B2 back. Nothing wrong with it as such, other than the speed the screen jumps back to the main screen which is really irritating, but i can see me getting distracted by it. Ive already noticed I’m spending more time tweaking it than playing at home. I also don’t really have a need for it, although i do enjoy using it. 
It struck me last night that the bass player in my main band doesn’t use any FX at all, and sounds great on everything. Just bass/cable/amp. Toys are nice to have but for me it’s a solution to a problem i don’t actually have. At least not at the moment. I’ll stick with my BDI-21 and that’s it. If i find i need more later on I’d certainly buy another B2. 

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On 13/05/2024 at 10:46, dave_bass5 said:

I’m sending my B2 back. Nothing wrong with it as such, other than the speed the screen jumps back to the main screen which is really irritating, but i can see me getting distracted by it. Ive already noticed I’m spending more time tweaking it than playing at home. I also don’t really have a need for it, although i do enjoy using it. 
It struck me last night that the bass player in my main band doesn’t use any FX at all, and sounds great on everything. Just bass/cable/amp. Toys are nice to have but for me it’s a solution to a problem i don’t actually have. At least not at the moment. I’ll stick with my BDI-21 and that’s it. If i find i need more later on I’d certainly buy another B2. 

I too ended up sending mine back; the timeout on the knob display was annoying but I also found the tuner was a big step backwards from that in the B1Four.  Also a step back was that the rhythm and looper each consumed an fx slot (unlike the B1Four where they did not).

Sam x

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On 08/05/2024 at 23:20, dave_bass5 said:

What really surprised me was i had it running off a small power bank and it seemed to drop around 10% per hour

Now you've given me an idea. I run my B1ON on rechargeables but my duo partner uses the USB to power a G1ON via his phone charger. I've got some LED stage lighting that runs at USB voltages and run those off a small power bank which saves some of the spaghetti on stage and speeds set up and break-down I wonder how much else could be run off a power bank?

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24 minutes ago, Phil Starr said:

Now you've given me an idea. I run my B1ON on rechargeables but my duo partner uses the USB to power a G1ON via his phone charger. I've got some LED stage lighting that runs at USB voltages and run those off a small power bank which saves some of the spaghetti on stage and speeds set up and break-down I wonder how much else could be run off a power bank?

I've got a Krisdona power brick and it provides a switchable DC output that can supply 9V@3A (it also has 3 USB ports) so I can drive an HX Stomp&Morningstar MC6 plus whatever else I may add.  With 25,000 mAh it lasts hours.  Only issue is finding a nice way to mount under a pedalboard.

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4 hours ago, SamIAm said:

I too ended up sending mine back; the timeout on the knob display was annoying but I also found the tuner was a big step backwards from that in the B1Four.  Also a step back was that the rhythm and looper each consumed an fx slot (unlike the B1Four where they did not).

Sam x

Id have kept it if i had space in my gig bag, but it was still on the larger side of what i wanted. If i was just playing at home it would have been fine, and im sure ill get another at some point for this use, but for now ill be using just a Paradriver. Nice and compact and runs off a battery. I like things as neat as possible when i have to carry stuff on public transport.

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53 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

Id have kept it if i had space in my gig bag, but it was still on the larger side of what i wanted. If i was just playing at home it would have been fine, and im sure ill get another at some point for this use, but for now ill be using just a Paradriver. Nice and compact and runs off a battery. I like things as neat as possible when i have to carry stuff on public transport.

After playing with a few setups (Mostly multi-fx but also some single pedals) I've ended up with an HX Stomp/Morningstar MC6/Sonicake Volwah configuration.  I had a Stomp a couple of years ago but then sold it on as I wasn't 'getting on' with it, but with two years of learning/discovering what I wanted/needed I recently acquired another (Here on BC of course).

Just waiting for a couple of 5-pin MIDI interconnects to get it all setup (And then measured to figure out what to mount it all on)

Sam x

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3 hours ago, SamIAm said:

After playing with a few setups (Mostly multi-fx but also some single pedals) I've ended up with an HX Stomp/Morningstar MC6/Sonicake Volwah configuration.  I had a Stomp a couple of years ago but then sold it on as I wasn't 'getting on' with it, but with two years of learning/discovering what I wanted/needed I recently acquired another (Here on BC of course).

Just waiting for a couple of 5-pin MIDI interconnects to get it all setup (And then measured to figure out what to mount it all on)

Sam x

 

Good luck with the Stomp - be interested to see how you get on. Seems to be very common tale (including with my own bandmates) of users finding the Stomp needing quite a lot TLC to get to a sound that folk are happy with and more often than not giving up along the way, whereas something like the GT 1000 Core seems to be a lot quicker out of the box.

 

8 hours ago, SamIAm said:

I too ended up sending mine back; the timeout on the knob display was annoying but I also found the tuner was a big step backwards from that in the B1Four.  Also a step back was that the rhythm and looper each consumed an fx slot (unlike the B1Four where they did not).

Sam x

 

I see that the B1-4 lives on to fight another day! Tbf I'm still managing to get more from mine since first they first came out in three years ago e.g. recently creating a set of bespoke preamp patches for my two gigging basses rather than having a one-size fits all approach which having access to a PC editor lacking on the B2-4 makes it a doddle to do.

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8 hours ago, SamIAm said:

After playing with a few setups (Mostly multi-fx but also some single pedals) I've ended up with an HX Stomp/Morningstar MC6/Sonicake Volwah configuration.  I had a Stomp a couple of years ago but then sold it on as I wasn't 'getting on' with it, but with two years of learning/discovering what I wanted/needed I recently acquired another (Here on BC of course).

Just waiting for a couple of 5-pin MIDI interconnects to get it all setup (And then measured to figure out what to mount it all on)

Sam x

I too had a Stomp and love what it could do and how it sounded, but when i stopped playing bass during lockdown i sold it. Now id love another but dot think I’ll ever need a Multi Fx like that again. Really enjoying the freedom of not having to think about anything other than the playing. I do use a Paradriver, but thats just for always on tone. 

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