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Behringer Mutron III clone (B-Tron III)


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  On 13/03/2025 at 20:55, HoorayForAnonyms said:

Apparently the B-Tron does also run on a 9v battery. You’ll have to send a letter of apology to Behringer, @ped. It might make a change to the usual ‘cease and desist’ letters they receive 😛

 

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Ah my mistake - I assumed it didn’t because their octavider didn’t either. In that case the off switch is quite useful, assuming it works in the same way (and I’m not making that assumption too!)

Posted
  On 13/03/2025 at 20:58, HoorayForAnonyms said:

That’s a shame. Hopefully it’ll be a straightforward return. I wonder if Behringer is shipping these with a 9v battery included. Might be worth opening it up to check and removing if included. Are you asking for a replacement or refund? 

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Not sure about the battery, and it's already been packed up to go back so I can't check.

I'm asking for a replacement  - hopefully they'll have one left...

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Posted
  On 13/03/2025 at 23:05, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Not sure about the battery, and it's already been packed up to go back so I can't check.

I'm asking for a replacement  - hopefully they'll have one left...

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Mine didn't come with a battery included. (or if it did, the battery is dead, it does nothing without a power cable. I haven't taken the back off though)

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Mine just arrived 

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and it definitely is not going back.

A lovely wet, splashy envelope. The down stroke is the best I've heard.

Looks great, sounds great 👍 

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Posted
  On 15/03/2025 at 12:49, stewblack said:

Mine just arrived 

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and it definitely is not going back.

A lovely wet, splashy envelope. The down stroke is the best I've heard.

Looks great, sounds great 👍 

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Yeah that, low pass, low range, drive down sound is really good.

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  On 15/03/2025 at 15:04, SumOne said:

Yeah that, low pass, low range, drive down sound is really good.

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Pleeeeeeeeease could one of you be kind and post a recording!? I'm meant to be on super saving mode for impending house purchase, but if this sounds like I hope it's going to sound then I must have one!

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  On 15/03/2025 at 23:18, bakerster135 said:

 

 

Pleeeeeeeeease could one of you be kind and post a recording!? I'm meant to be on super saving mode for impending house purchase, but if this sounds like I hope it's going to sound then I must have one!

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 Here' a quick noodle with Low Pass, Low Range, Drive Down. On a Jazz type Passive Bass and no compressor or preamp or EQ etc. 

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Posted (edited)
  On 15/03/2025 at 12:49, stewblack said:

Mine just arrived 

Compress_20250315_124701_1248.thumb.jpg.b83378595c87df577e2b30154001dd37.jpg

and it definitely is not going back.

A lovely wet, splashy envelope. The down stroke is the best I've heard.

Looks great, sounds great 👍 

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Stew, out of interest, apart from having actual labeling on the buttons etc, how does it compare to the Redrocket clone, Tron III? 

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labels, I forgot about the labels
Posted
  On 17/03/2025 at 20:36, p4ul said:

Stew, out of interest, apart from having actual labeling on the buttons etc, how does it compare to the Redrocket clone, Tron III? 

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That's a very good question. I'll try to record a side by side

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OK as promised a short clip of the Behringer B-Tron followed by the Red Rocket Tron lll. I thought I'd stick with the same riff used above. The first thing i noticed was the B-Tron is compressed quite significantly in comparison with the Tron lll. Just a glance at the waveforms after I recorded the clips showed way more dynamic change within the Red Rocket recording. The B-Tron was very square by comparison. 

 

 

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Posted
  On 24/03/2025 at 18:58, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Well, my replacement arrived and it was exactly the same as the first pedal. So either I was tremendously unlucky to get two broken ones or it's just a very dodgy pedal. 

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It does seem odd as no-one else seems to have had that issue, then you have it two in a row.... The odds seem very slim.

 

Perhaps the shop has a bad batch?

 

Or could there be anything with your setup? I'd guess a power supply related thing.

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Are the input/outputs the opposite way round as they are on the Mutron (Musitronics and Haz)? That's caught a few people out before!

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Posted
  On 25/03/2025 at 09:54, ped said:

Are the input/outputs the opposite way round as they are on the Mutron (Musitronics and Haz)? That's caught a few people out before!

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They seem to be the standard way around on this one. 

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  On 24/03/2025 at 17:47, stewblack said:

OK as promised a short clip of the Behringer B-Tron followed by the Red Rocket Tron lll. I thought I'd stick with the same riff used above. The first thing i noticed was the B-Tron is compressed quite significantly in comparison with the Tron lll. Just a glance at the waveforms after I recorded the clips showed way more dynamic change within the Red Rocket recording. The B-Tron was very square by comparison. 

 

 

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Thanks, that's quite the difference in the tone at the mid range, RR Tron lll seems to have more of an open / breathy dynamic there.
I am glad the behringer unit is good though, you could say more "refined" in comparison I guess,  I mean the RR T3 has the fonk, and can be a bit of an unruly untamed feral beast, and that's why I like it 🙂.
I have always been a bit suspect of behringer stuff, for some unknown reason, perhaps I was frightened by a behringer pedal when I was a child.

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from rage to range, (Range Agin the Mashin)
Posted
  On 25/03/2025 at 15:09, p4ul said:

have always been a bit suspect of behringer stuff

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People talked a lot of trash about the brand back in the day, that stuff seeps into us whether we like it or not.

 

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Posted
  On 25/03/2025 at 21:30, stewblack said:

People talked a lot of trash about the brand back in the day, that stuff seeps into us whether we like it or not.

 

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Rightly so though. Shamelessly ripping off other companies’ still-in-production products (and still doing so (see their Swing)). Fine with them resurrecting stuff where the copyright has lapsed or the original companies are refusing to reissue it though. Occasionally they’ve even come up with some nice original stuff.

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Posted
  On 25/03/2025 at 22:59, Quatschmacher said:

Rightly so though. Shamelessly ripping off other companies’ still-in-production products (and still doing so (see their Swing)). Fine with them resurrecting stuff where the copyright has lapsed or the original companies are refusing to reissue it though. Occasionally they’ve even come up with some nice original stuff.

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I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the quality of their products.

Posted
  On 25/03/2025 at 22:59, Quatschmacher said:

Rightly so though. Shamelessly ripping off other companies’ still-in-production products (and still doing so (see their Swing)). Fine with them resurrecting stuff where the copyright has lapsed or the original companies are refusing to reissue it though. Occasionally they’ve even come up with some nice original stuff.

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It's alright, avoid the copyright strike then repackage stuff as 'TC Electronics' and all will be forgiven.

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