Behringer Mutron III clone (B-Tron III)

[ped]

8 minutes ago, HoorayForAnonyms said:

Apparently the B-Tron does also run on a 9v battery. You’ll have to send a letter of apology to Behringer, @ped. It might make a change to the usual ‘cease and desist’ letters they receive 😛

 

Ah my mistake - I assumed it didn’t because their octavider didn’t either. In that case the off switch is quite useful, assuming it works in the same way (and I’m not making that assumption too!)

[Cosmo Valdemar]

2 hours ago, HoorayForAnonyms said:

That’s a shame. Hopefully it’ll be a straightforward return. I wonder if Behringer is shipping these with a 9v battery included. Might be worth opening it up to check and removing if included. Are you asking for a replacement or refund? 

Not sure about the battery, and it's already been packed up to go back so I can't check.

I'm asking for a replacement  - hopefully they'll have one left...

[SumOne]

13 hours ago, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Not sure about the battery, and it's already been packed up to go back so I can't check.

I'm asking for a replacement  - hopefully they'll have one left...

 

Mine didn't come with a battery included. (or if it did, the battery is dead, it does nothing without a power cable. I haven't taken the back off though)

[Kyndainverse]

1 hour ago, SumOne said:

 

Mine didn't come with a battery included. (or if it did, the battery is dead, it does nothing without a power cable. I haven't taken the back off though)

Same here.

[stewblack]

Mine just arrived 

and it definitely is not going back.

A lovely wet, splashy envelope. The down stroke is the best I've heard.

Looks great, sounds great 👍 

[SumOne]

2 hours ago, stewblack said:

Mine just arrived 

and it definitely is not going back.

A lovely wet, splashy envelope. The down stroke is the best I've heard.

Looks great, sounds great 👍 

Yeah that, low pass, low range, drive down sound is really good.

[Cosmo Valdemar]

On 13/03/2025 at 23:05, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Not sure about the battery, and it's already been packed up to go back so I can't check.

I'm asking for a replacement  - hopefully they'll have one left...

Replacement is coming on Tuesday!

[bakerster135]

 

8 hours ago, SumOne said:

Yeah that, low pass, low range, drive down sound is really good.

 

Pleeeeeeeeease could one of you be kind and post a recording!? I'm meant to be on super saving mode for impending house purchase, but if this sounds like I hope it's going to sound then I must have one!

[SumOne]

19 hours ago, bakerster135 said:

 

 

Pleeeeeeeeease could one of you be kind and post a recording!? I'm meant to be on super saving mode for impending house purchase, but if this sounds like I hope it's going to sound then I must have one!

 Here' a quick noodle with Low Pass, Low Range, Drive Down. On a Jazz type Passive Bass and no compressor or preamp or EQ etc. 

[fretmeister]

37 minutes ago, SumOne said:

 Here' a quick noodle with Low Pass, Low Range, Drive Down. On a Jazz type Passive Bass and no compressor or preamp or EQ etc. 

 

That sounds ace.

[bakerster135]

51 minutes ago, SumOne said:

 Here' a quick noodle with Low Pass, Low Range, Drive Down. On a Jazz type Passive Bass and no compressor or preamp or EQ etc. 

This is great, @SumOne, thanks very much for posting!

[p4ul]

On 15/03/2025 at 12:49, stewblack said:

Mine just arrived 

and it definitely is not going back.

A lovely wet, splashy envelope. The down stroke is the best I've heard.

Looks great, sounds great 👍 

Stew, out of interest, apart from having actual labeling on the buttons etc, how does it compare to the Redrocket clone, Tron III? 

Edited March 17 by p4ul
labels, I forgot about the labels

[stewblack]

1 hour ago, p4ul said:

Stew, out of interest, apart from having actual labeling on the buttons etc, how does it compare to the Redrocket clone, Tron III? 

That's a very good question. I'll try to record a side by side

[stewblack]

OK as promised a short clip of the Behringer B-Tron followed by the Red Rocket Tron lll. I thought I'd stick with the same riff used above. The first thing i noticed was the B-Tron is compressed quite significantly in comparison with the Tron lll. Just a glance at the waveforms after I recorded the clips showed way more dynamic change within the Red Rocket recording. The B-Tron was very square by comparison. 

 

 

Edited Monday at 17:48 by stewblack

[Cosmo Valdemar]

Well, my replacement arrived and it was exactly the same as the first pedal. So either I was tremendously unlucky to get two broken ones or it's just a very dodgy pedal. 

[SumOne]

12 hours ago, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Well, my replacement arrived and it was exactly the same as the first pedal. So either I was tremendously unlucky to get two broken ones or it's just a very dodgy pedal. 

It does seem odd as no-one else seems to have had that issue, then you have it two in a row.... The odds seem very slim.

 

Perhaps the shop has a bad batch?

 

Or could there be anything with your setup? I'd guess a power supply related thing.

[ped]

Are the input/outputs the opposite way round as they are on the Mutron (Musitronics and Haz)? That's caught a few people out before!

[Quatschmacher]

1 hour ago, ped said:

Are the input/outputs the opposite way round as they are on the Mutron (Musitronics and Haz)? That's caught a few people out before!

They seem to be the standard way around on this one. 

[p4ul]

21 hours ago, stewblack said:

OK as promised a short clip of the Behringer B-Tron followed by the Red Rocket Tron lll. I thought I'd stick with the same riff used above. The first thing i noticed was the B-Tron is compressed quite significantly in comparison with the Tron lll. Just a glance at the waveforms after I recorded the clips showed way more dynamic change within the Red Rocket recording. The B-Tron was very square by comparison. 

 

 

Thanks, that's quite the difference in the tone at the mid range, RR Tron lll seems to have more of an open / breathy dynamic there.
I am glad the behringer unit is good though, you could say more "refined" in comparison I guess,  I mean the RR T3 has the fonk, and can be a bit of an unruly untamed feral beast, and that's why I like it 🙂.
I have always been a bit suspect of behringer stuff, for some unknown reason, perhaps I was frightened by a behringer pedal when I was a child.

Edited 22 hours ago by p4ul
from rage to range, (Range Agin the Mashin)

[stewblack]

6 hours ago, p4ul said:

have always been a bit suspect of behringer stuff

People talked a lot of trash about the brand back in the day, that stuff seeps into us whether we like it or not.

 

[Quatschmacher]

1 hour ago, stewblack said:

People talked a lot of trash about the brand back in the day, that stuff seeps into us whether we like it or not.

 

Rightly so though. Shamelessly ripping off other companies’ still-in-production products (and still doing so (see their Swing)). Fine with them resurrecting stuff where the copyright has lapsed or the original companies are refusing to reissue it though. Occasionally they’ve even come up with some nice original stuff.

[stewblack]

8 hours ago, Quatschmacher said:

Rightly so though. Shamelessly ripping off other companies’ still-in-production products (and still doing so (see their Swing)). Fine with them resurrecting stuff where the copyright has lapsed or the original companies are refusing to reissue it though. Occasionally they’ve even come up with some nice original stuff.

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the quality of their products.

[Quatschmacher]

1 hour ago, stewblack said:

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the quality of their products.

They did also at one point seem to have a high failure rate but seems much better these days. 

[LukeFRC]

12 hours ago, Quatschmacher said:

Rightly so though. Shamelessly ripping off other companies’ still-in-production products (and still doing so (see their Swing)). Fine with them resurrecting stuff where the copyright has lapsed or the original companies are refusing to reissue it though. Occasionally they’ve even come up with some nice original stuff.

It's alright, avoid the copyright strike then repackage stuff as 'TC Electronics' and all will be forgiven.