Pedalboard glue

[john_the_bass]

I know I've asked this question before, but I'm going to ask it again in case there is anything 'new' and 'improved' (how can something be new and improved....?) on the market for attaching carpet to pedal boards.

I have an NYC Gigman board, pictured below:



Attached to the carpet on the underside of the riser is the power supply and a small jack socket box that allows me to plug the guitar in at the back of the board and not have to worry about leaving gaps between fx to plug in leads and whatnot - anyway, I digress.
The carpet on the underside is lifting slightly and I need to stick it back down again. I have some UHU stuff and some Wilkinson's own brand, very similar to UHU and some superglue. I also have a stapler, nowt fancy, the sort of thing you might find on the desk of any office.

Should I use something a bit more specific or sticky? I don't know what sort of wood is used in the construction of the riser, it doesn't look like ply and it's not very heavy, so it might be some kind of compressed fibreboard - maybe.

[kingforaday]

i just made a pedal board and as i'm the sorta guy who likes to cut as many corners as possible i used a staple gun to attach the carpet. if i had the patience and was looking to spend money on it i'd have got some of that spray adhesive you get from DIY type shops

[john_the_bass]

I have tried that and I didn't find it to be very effective in the long term and that it needed to be reapplied every few months. I want a fix and forget solution really.

[dannybuoy]

This [url="http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=4066"]Servisol spray glue[/url] from Maplin is meant to be pretty good (seems to be out of stock though). I bought a can when I was going to make my own board but ended up buying a Pedaltrain so I've never even opened it. If you want it, gimme a fiver and I'll send it to you!

Edited April 28, 2009 by dannybuoy

[john_the_bass]

But it's technically second hand
They appear to have stock in my local Maplins, which is only round the corner so I might check that out - cheers for the info though.

[ahpook]

if you use spray mount, use it outside, and a long way from anything you don't want coated with horrid sticky gunk.

if you want it to never come off, you could attch the carpet with something like evostick carpet adhesive

[cheddatom]

"no more nails" or something equally over the top should do it. I used UHU and "lock-tite" or whatever it's called and it came up.

[Finbar]

When the carpet came off my Diago board, I stuck it down with PVA glue, left heavy things on it until it dried, then hammered 13mm wide headed roofing nails into it at regular interviews. I've had absolutely no problems since then

[martinbass7750]

Hi John,

You should use a contact adhesive. Evostick, either in a tin or spray, will do it.

You need to put a coat on the board and a coat on the carpet, then leave until touch dry, then put them together.

It never seems to work properly if you put the glue on one side and then put the two parts together.

Cheers

Martin

[john_the_bass]

Cheers all, I found some double sided carpet tape in a drawer in the back bedroom and tried that
Dunno if it'll work properly yet, but as long as it sticks down enough to take the weight of a Diago power supply, then I'm happy!

[1976fenderhead]

[quote name='john_the_bass' post='474639' date='Apr 28 2009, 10:20 PM']Cheers all, I found some double sided carpet tape in a drawer in the back bedroom and tried that
Dunno if it'll work properly yet, but as long as it sticks down enough to take the weight of a Diago power supply, then I'm happy![/quote]

Ha! Funny you said that because that was exactly my suggestion: when the carpet of my Diago board came out (which was a few days after I got it!!!) I just put loads of double-sided tape over the wood in several directions always going through the centre (similar to the Union Jack pattern) and along the 4 edges, and some 2 years later and many pedals added and removed, still going strong!!!

Double-sided sticky tape all the way!!!

Edited April 29, 2009 by 1976fenderhead

[john_the_bass]

Incidentally, Mike at NYC pedalboards recommend I used some Weldwood Contact Cement, although from my small amount of research, this does appear in fact to be identical to Evostik!

[MB1]

MB1.
..."Looks like i Picked a Bad Day to Start Sniffing Glue!" (from the film Airplane.)

[john_the_bass]

Wilkinson's contact adhesive in a tube (£1.49) appears to be very good at sticking down pedalboard carpets!

[pantherairsoft]

Go to a Carpet Wholesalers... the sell carpets and carpet adhesives to the carpet trade. You will be able to buy glue sticks designed for sticking carpet to floors, perminantly.

Some places that sell workplace items and lubricants do them as well (like Arco), but will be cheaper if you find a wholesale warehouse.

Tec-Bond is the main brand, although I'm sure there are cheaper as your paying for the name here...
[url="http://www.arco.co.uk/products/4441012/15862/TEC-Bond_14_Packaging_Grade_Hotmelt_Glue_Sticks"]http://www.arco.co.uk/products/4441012/158...elt_Glue_Sticks[/url]

Edited June 18, 2009 by pantherairsoft

[iamapirate]

Staple gun!!
I bought a pedalboard a while back, and it came with some tape (brand new) That just didn't see to stick down. I put one (heavy Duty) Staple on each end, and one in the middloe, and it works like a charM! Plus, you can get them out and it doesn't leave very many marks.

[john_the_bass]

I'll stick (pun intended) with the Wilko's contact adhesive - it's done exactly what I wanted it to do

[DanOwens]

Along similar lines, I recently bought a Diago board but the carpet had frayed so badly it was unusable. I stripped the carpet off and have replaced it with 50mm wide velcro but I'm unhappy with the ununiform coverage.

What carpet do you guys use to recover your boards?

Dan

[BottomEndian]

[quote name='john_the_bass' post='474073' date='Apr 28 2009, 11:29 AM'][/quote]
Sorry to be OT, but what's the little white pedal between the Tube Screamer and the wah?

[john_the_bass]

That's a clean boost I had made by E-fects - www.e-fects.co.uk. Boosts my clean sound or if I turn the gain up, drives my valve amp.

[BottomEndian]

[quote name='john_the_bass' post='519235' date='Jun 20 2009, 12:53 PM']That's a clean boost I had made by E-fects - www.e-fects.co.uk. Boosts my clean sound or if I turn the gain up, drives my valve amp.[/quote]
Sweet little number. Hadn't come across E-fects before. Ta!

[john_the_bass]

E is a top bloke and has made some nice stuff and some other bits and bobs. I have a tiny little box which is basically a jack in and out which I can mount on the underside of the riser and use it to start my chain with any of the pedals and leave them in the position they are in. He's done some good clones for mates of mine and rebuilt a BYOC pedal that had been badly soldered in the first instance