Ric 4001 neck dimensions?

[OldGit]

Anyone know where I can find the dimensions of a Ric 4001 neck? Preferably a 70's one if they vary.

I'm interested in
- the width at the nut and 12 fret,
- the neck depth/thickness at the 3rd, 5th and 12th frets: that's the dimensions labeled C and D in this handy diagram from Ibanez.




- Fingerboard radius
- bridge string spacing

I'd prefer it in mm but I appreciate that Americans don't tend to speak metric

Thanks,
OG

Edited April 30, 2009 by OldGit

[master28]

Greetings! I own two Warwick Mastermans (Mastermen?) I find the necks to be quite comfortable. They're both 34" scale; I know Rics are 33 1/2. Nonetheless here are Warwick's dimensions, taken from their site:

Also, for what its worth, I'm current building a bass with these neck dimensions, although mine will be a 35" (maybe 36"?) scale. It'll be a variation of a Warwick Buzzard/Alembic Dragon Wing (pic attached)

[i]Q: Which scale lengths are available for Warwick basses?
A: Warwick basses generally are long scale (34"). Exceptions are: Alien Acoustic Bass, Hellborg Signature Bass (medium scale, 32"), Vampyre "Dark Lord" (35", extra long scale) and the Triumph E-upright Bass (1/2 - Eb). Scale options are available only for Bolt-On models in the Warwick Custom Shop for newly ordered basses. These scales are available: short scale (30"), medium scale (32"), long scale (standard, 34") and extra long scale (35").


Q: Which string spacing does my Warwick bass have?
A: The string spacing at the bridge is as follows:

4 string: 19,00 mm
5 / 6 string standard spacing: 16,50 mm
5 / 6 string broad neck: 20,00 mm

Q: What is the nut width of a Warwick bass?
A: The nut width is as follows:

________________standard_____broad neck
4-string_________38,50 mm_____44,00 mm
5-string_________45,00 mm_____47,00 mm
6-string_________52,00 mm_____55,00 mm

Q: What is the fingerboard radius of my Warwick bass?
A: The fingerboard radius is as follows:

4 string 502 mm (20")
5 string standard 664 mm (26")
5 string broad neck / 6 string standard 1200 mm (47")
6 string broad neck 1200 mm (47")[/i]

[OldGit]

Er thanks ....

[Guest MoJo]

[quote name='OldGit' post='475429' date='Apr 29 2009, 08:15 PM']Er thanks ....[/quote]

[GreeneKing]

I can give you the neck dimensions for my G&L, Warwick Thumb, ACG Harlot and Overwater too if you'd like em

I do have a pair of 4001's but as they are later models (A CS and a C64S) and they may not have much relevance to a 70's model.

[Buzz]

I'm creasing up, somethings are just unintentionally hilarious

[Paul_C]

I've just measured my neck and I take a 17" collar


no idea if that helps at all ?

[4000]

[quote name='OldGit' post='474806' date='Apr 29 2009, 09:28 AM']Anyone know where I can find the dimensions of a Ric 4001 neck? Preferably a 70's one if they vary.

I'm interested in
- the width at the nut and 12 fret,
- the neck depth/thickness at the 3rd, 5th and 12th frets: that's the dimensions labeled C and D in this handy diagram from Ibanez.




- Fingerboard radius
- bridge string spacing

I'd prefer it in mm but I appreciate that Americans don't tend to speak metric

Thanks,
OG[/quote]

Rics vary from bass to bass, never mind year to year. I've recently played 3 '73s and they were all totally different, from pencil-thin to baseball-bat big. I've owned 9 and they have all felt different. Check out the Ric Resource Forum; they've done a thread about Ric neck dimensions. I think what was found was that the measurements didn't seem to vary that much but that doesn't tell the story of how different they all feel.

Edited April 29, 2009 by 4000

[OldGit]

[quote name='4000' post='475557' date='Apr 29 2009, 10:33 PM']Rics vary from bass to bass, never mind year to year. I've recently played 3 '73s and they were all totally different, from pencil-thin to baseball-bat big. I've owned 9 and they have all felt different. Check out the Ric Resource Forum; they've done a thread about Ric neck dimensions. I think what was found was that the measurements didn't seem to vary that much but that doesn't tell the story of how different they all feel.[/quote]


Hiyah,
Thanks .. Oh well ...
I was after some idea of what the wide flat ones measure. I used to have a '72 or '73 and that was really thin (dimention C) and always felt great. Hence my question.

Thanks all round.
OG

[OldGit]

[quote name='bassman2790' post='475431' date='Apr 29 2009, 08:18 PM'] [/quote]


Well he is new ..

Is that my earstwhile Yamaha in your avatar there?

[OldGit]

[quote name='master28' post='475319' date='Apr 29 2009, 06:09 PM']Greetings! I own two Warwick Mastermans (Mastermen?) I find the necks to be quite comfortable. They're both 34" scale; I know Rics are 33 1/2. Nonetheless here are Warwick's dimensions, taken from their site:

Also, for what its worth, I'm current building a bass with these neck dimensions, although mine will be a 35" (maybe 36"?) scale. It'll be a variation of a Warwick Buzzard/Alembic Dragon Wing (pic attached)[/quote]

Good luck with the build. There's a place for build threads on here. You could start one and document your progress. They are always interesting, especially if you take loads of photos..
There's a number of builders here too so if you have problems they can help ..

[4000]

[quote name='OldGit' post='475638' date='Apr 30 2009, 12:18 AM']Hiyah,
Thanks .. Oh well ...
I was after some idea of what the wide flat ones measure. I used to have a '72 or '73 and that was really thin (dimention C) and always felt great. Hence my question.

Thanks all round.
OG[/quote]

I have a '72 which has my favourite Ric neck; it's kind of a flattened C. I'll try and measure it tomorrow.

[flatwound]

Specs for 4001 Rickenbacker

Specifications
Body Type Solid
No. Frets 20
Scale Length 84.5 cm (33 1/4'')
[b]Neck Width at Nut 41.3 mm (1 5/8'')
Neck Width at 12th Fret 52.4 mm (2 1/16'')[/b]
Crown Radius 25.4 cm (10'')
Body Wood Maple
Neck Wood Maple
Fingerboard Wood Rosewood
Weight 4.5 kg (10.0 lbs.)
Overall Length 114.5 cm (45 1/16'')

Overall Width 33.7 cm (13 1/4'')
Overall Depth 31.8 mm (1 1/4'')
Neck Binding No
Fret Marker Style Dot

[OldGit]

[quote name='flatwound' post='475659' date='Apr 30 2009, 12:56 AM']Specs for 4001 Rickenbacker

Specifications
Body Type Solid
No. Frets 20
Scale Length 84.5 cm (33 1/4'')
[b]Neck Width at Nut 41.3 mm (1 5/8'')
Neck Width at 12th Fret 52.4 mm (2 1/16'')[/b]
Crown Radius 25.4 cm (10'')
Body Wood Maple
Neck Wood Maple
Fingerboard Wood Rosewood
Weight 4.5 kg (10.0 lbs.)
Overall Length 114.5 cm (45 1/16'')

Overall Width 33.7 cm (13 1/4'')
Overall Depth 31.8 mm (1 1/4'')
Neck Binding No
Fret Marker Style Dot[/quote]


Thanks
Any idea what vintage these specs are from?

[Musky]

[quote name='OldGit' post='475744' date='Apr 30 2009, 09:23 AM']Thanks
Any idea what vintage these specs are from?[/quote]

The reference to dot markers and 33 1/4" scale might suggest that the specs are taken from a v63.

Edit: Or possibly the Chris Squire model.

There was no actual difference in scale length to the older models, just the way Rick measured it.

Edited April 30, 2009 by Musky

[flatwound]

[quote name='OldGit' post='475744' date='Apr 30 2009, 06:23 PM']Thanks
Any idea what vintage these specs are from?[/quote]
1971 I think !
Scroll around this page and site, it may be of help to you.
[url="http://www.rickenbacker.com/catalog_poster_piece.asp?poster_piece=cf84-bass-6.jpg"]http://www.rickenbacker.com/catalog_poster...cf84-bass-6.jpg[/url]

[OldGit]

[quote name='flatwound' post='476038' date='Apr 30 2009, 02:31 PM']1971 I think !
Scroll around this page and site, it may be of help to you.
[url="http://www.rickenbacker.com/catalog_poster_piece.asp?poster_piece=cf84-bass-6.jpg"]http://www.rickenbacker.com/catalog_poster...cf84-bass-6.jpg[/url][/quote]


Thanks The missing measurement is teeh main one really, that "dimension C", thickness at third, fith and 12th fret.

I know they are wide and slim but just how slim?

[Darcy]

Hi havn't got a micrometer thingy, but here goes...

1976 4001

Scale 84.5mm
Nut width 41mm
12th Fret width 53mm
Radius 25.4mm
Neck depth 3rd 21mm 5th 22mm 12th 23mm

[OldGit]

[quote name='Darcy' post='478756' date='May 4 2009, 08:04 AM']Hi havn't got a micrometer thingy, but here goes...

1976 4001

Scale 84.5mm
Nut width 41mm
12th Fret width 53mm
Radius 25.4mm
Neck depth 3rd 21mm 5th 22mm 12th 23mm[/quote]

Oh Mr D'arcy!!
Thanks, that's great.