Hellzero Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Loris Tils, a very talented and funny Belgian bassist is raising funds for his new project (EP, book and more). https://www.ulule.com/nouvel-ep-book-loris-tils/ Here are some videos: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Err... err... did you not slate Stu Hamm for doing just this? HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!! 😋😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 Stuart Hamm certainly doesn't need the money, that's why I slaughtered him. So, people are prepared to give money to someone who doesn't need it, but not to someone entitled to ask for it and giving more for your money. It's not hypocrisy, it's common sense. Loris Tils needs the money for his new record, so be a community and act the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 'Needs' is a strong word. One could argue that there are causes more worthy than music to donate to. Though to support your comment, Stu Hamm's 'estimate net worth' is somewhere between $3-$6,000,000 so your arguement of 'does he need the money?' is valid, but if people want to pay a 'famous' man for involvement in his album and feel like the contributed, then the 'famous' man will probably always bring in more money through crowd funding than Loris Tils, even if Loris Tils is equally talented. Fame has its perks! Edited May 12, 2023 by binky_bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, binky_bass said: 'Needs' is a strong word. One could argue that there are causes more worthy than music to donate to. Though to support your comment, Stu Hamm's 'estimate net worth' is somewhere between $3-$6,000,000 so your arguement of 'does he need the money?' is valid, but if people want to pay a 'famous' man for involvement in his album and feel like the contributed, then the 'famous' man will probably always bring in more money through crowd funding than Loris Tils, even if Loris Tils is equally talented. Fame has its perks! Help the rich, if I summarise good. Nice modern world we're living in... Thanks for the lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Notoriety brings with it its perks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 Who gives a shīt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 It's less 'help the rich' than it is 'help someone you've actually heard of and like their work over someone I have never heard of and know nothing of his work'. The talent of the individual is not the barometer we use when contributing to such things. It's whether we know them and have a link to them in some personal manner. For me, I'd contribute to Stu Hamm because his work means something to me and being a small part of his next album would also hold meaning. That's what I'd be paying for. Consideration of his personal wealth wouldn't really factor in. I'd need to spend time to form that same connection to Tils before I'd considered contributing, and if I'm honest, I probably won't spare the time to do that - not at least in the immediate future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, binky_bass said: It's less 'help the rich' than it is 'help someone you've actually heard of and like their work over someone I have never heard of and know nothing of his work'. The talent of the individual is not the barometer we use when contributing to such things. It's whether we know them and have a link to them in some personal manner. For me, I'd contribute to Stu Hamm because his work means something to me and being a small part of his next album would also hold meaning. That's what I'd be paying for. Consideration of his personal wealth wouldn't really factor in. I'd need to spend time to form that same connection to Tils before I'd considered contributing, and if I'm honest, I probably won't spare the time to do that - not at least in the immediate future. So why spending time writing this then. Maybe you don't remember but Stuart Hamm started out of the blue too and without some helping hands called Steve Vai or Joe Satriani, he would still be putting gas in cars... Loris Tils has his YouTube channel as well as Bandcamp, there are numerous videos, and albums to listen to. According to your reasoning, you only listen to people you know and refuse to discover the others, very odd argumentation here, and I've been accustomed to better than that. Furthermore it's a way more interesting project than simply another (boring) album as Stuart Hamm said all he had to say with his two first solo albums... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Hellzero said: According to your reasoning, you only listen to people you know and refuse to discover the others, very odd argumentation here, and I've been accustomed to better than that. Not having the spare time now to dig into a new artist to the point where I have an equal connect to one that I have admired for decades is hardly 'refusing to discover others'. Your comment is hyperbolic, and hyperbolic arguements loose their validity! My point, as I think you know, is that Stu Hamm is a known quantity to many, and many would be happy to contribute to his project based on what'd they'd get in return from an artist they know and admire. This doesn't detract from Tils, but there will be a correlation between someone's fame and the level of public contribution they will receive. Tils will get contributions I'm sure from those that know his work. I have a plane journey to Copenhagen next week, I shall use this time to investigate Tils. And anyway, we're all just grains of sand in the vast desert of the cosmos and nothing we do or say matters! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 He's certainly very good, and an entertainer. The music is kind of like a Belgian Wulfpeck only with a sense of humour and less smugness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted May 13, 2023 Author Share Posted May 13, 2023 I didn't dare to put the comparison, so thanks for doing it. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Hellzero said: I didn't dare to put the comparison, so thanks for doing it. 😊 Not at all - tbh I'd much rather listen to this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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