BassAgent Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 4 hours ago, lemmywinks said: Should say Sadowsky on it then! You do know why it doesn't on the first generation, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I don't ...please enlighten me at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAgent Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 IIRC there was somebody in China who already had the Sadowsky name trademarked. Roger stated that he was trying to get the name back, and that the RSD logo was a placeholder until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Forrer Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 11 hours ago, lonestar said: Me too, especially since I fitted a VTC plate How do you like it? Is it worth the effort ($$$)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Marty Forrer said: How do you like it? Is it worth the effort ($$$)? Definitely It gives a much weirder palette if usable sounds, particularly using the bridge pickup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 18 hours ago, BassAgent said: You do know why it doesn't on the first generation, right? Yes I was on the original thread when they first came out. The 1st gen logo is horrible and I'd have no qualms about putting the correct one on myself, certainly wouldn't be buying an entire replacement neck to correct a cosmetic issue which should have been sorted before the basses were even launched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 21 hours ago, BassAgent said: IIRC there was somebody in China who already had the Sadowsky name trademarked. Roger stated that he was trying to get the name back, and that the RSD logo was a placeholder until then. Yep, that's my understanding as well. The other party in China wasn't using the name so Roger was hopeful that he'd be able to get it back quickly. I believe it was only an issue because the new MEs are made in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Takes about 15 minutes to properly get going. Looks like my Sire V7 mk1 will be for sale very shortly… 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAgent Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On 30/05/2023 at 08:28, BassAgent said: Honestly considering e-mailing Warwick to see if they'll sell me a new neck with the Sadowsky logo on it. I like my 1st gen very very very much but man. That logo. Just got in touch with Warwick: not possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Looks excellent might go for my first five string Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Clearly managed to avoid the Brainwashing that goes on here (till now!!) 😆😆🧠🌊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, scalpy said: Takes about 15 minutes to properly get going. Looks like my Sire V7 mk1 will be for sale very shortly… My V7 2nd Gen is living on borrowed time now, frankly. I'm not seeing anything on the Warwick website yet but I may have the relevant pages there and on Thomann indefinitely open... Looks like everywhere is clearing out the current version though, and Guitar Guitar are even discounting a brand new Japanese ME to £1500 if anyone fancies it. https://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/product/180206322265007-3697210--sadowsky-metroexpress-japan-rv4-black-me971. My guess is these are imminent. Edited June 2, 2023 by asingardenof 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo85 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I am sure these are great basses for many purposes but at the end of the day for what I understand they are jazz basses with boost only preamp and no tone control knob. From my point of view, that's not a very interesting proposition, especially as that preamp (with tone control and solderless connections) is widely available for not too much money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Andy Irvine has a prototype to play with too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 57 minutes ago, Paolo85 said: I am sure these are great basses for many purposes but at the end of the day for what I understand they are jazz basses with boost only preamp and no tone control knob. From my point of view, that's not a very interesting proposition, especially as that preamp (with tone control and solderless connections) is widely available for not too much money I believe that the VTC upgrade is no longer available solderless. I certainly had to solder mine; which was straightforward enough, although I also had to add a washer to the volume pot to clear the cut out edge on my Chinese ME, rather than get jiggy with my router. I haven't seen this as an issue on any other forums or the Sadowsky users FB page apart from my post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo85 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 54 minutes ago, lonestar said: I believe that the VTC upgrade is no longer available solderless. I certainly had to solder mine; which was straightforward enough, although I also had to add a washer to the volume pot to clear the cut out edge on my Chinese ME, rather than get jiggy with my router. I haven't seen this as an issue on any other forums or the Sadowsky users FB page apart from my post. I see. I personally I was referring to the onboard preamp with contol plate that for example here https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Sadowsky_Preamp.html states that pickups connect with solderless connection (not sure about the ground for the bridge but I imagine that could just go in the earth of the J pickup?). So what I meant is: if I buy a Sadowsky preamp for £150 and I put it in my passive Squire VM J which sounds and play great as is, I get the preamp AND the tone control - if I understand correctly. If I buy the Sadowsky ME made in China for what I imagine will be north of £700 (pure guess, given they sell the ones with the old logo for £650) I do not get the tone control. One can buy and install the tone control for another 100 (assuming one has a soldering iron) but then brings the total to maybe £800. Now, the Sadowsky offers more than just the preamp, with lightweight tuners, high mass bridge and likely very good pickups. But then it is maybe £700 without tone control and £800 after buying it, so not cheap. I suppose whether the bass will be worth it or not will all go down to overall quality, and how the various parts fit together. Plus obviously subjective taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Paolo85 said: I see. I personally I was referring to the onboard preamp with contol plate that for example here https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Sadowsky_Preamp.html states that pickups connect with solderless connection (not sure about the ground for the bridge but I imagine that could just go in the earth of the J pickup?). So what I meant is: if I buy a Sadowsky preamp for £150 and I put it in my passive Squire VM J which sounds and play great as is, I get the preamp AND the tone control - if I understand correctly. If I buy the Sadowsky ME made in China for what I imagine will be north of £700 (pure guess, given they sell the ones with the old logo for £650) I do not get the tone control. One can buy and install the tone control for another 100 (assuming one has a soldering iron) but then brings the total to maybe £800. Now, the Sadowsky offers more than just the preamp, with lightweight tuners, high mass bridge and likely very good pickups. But then it is maybe £700 without tone control and £800 after buying it, so not cheap. I suppose whether the bass will be worth it or not will all go down to overall quality, and how the various parts fit together. Plus obviously subjective taste Yes that makes sense if you have space for the preamp and battery in your Squier. I'd expect the build quality on these is in a similar league. The 4 knob VTC on the control option, that I fitted isn't solderless though that must be an older model you're looking at. Having been a long time Fender P and Jazz fan I love Sadowsky basses for the reasons you mention, plus the light weight controls and neck feel I suspect the introduction of the ME series is a cunning plan as a gateway drug to the Metroline and NYC models ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMoon Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, lonestar said: I suspect the introduction of the ME series is a cunning plan as a gateway drug to the Metroline and NYC models ! This ^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 hours ago, lonestar said: I suspect the introduction of the ME series is a cunning plan as a gateway drug to the Metroline and NYC models ! That's very cynical* of you! (*accurate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Forrer Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I now have a VTC preamp winging its way to me from Bass Direct in Aussie. Looking forward to the first gig with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 Roger has confirmed in the FB group that they have been released, although I can't see any of them anywhere in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAgent Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 In that same comment Roger has also said that the new generation comes from a new factory. I really really want to try them now. And also I do not want to try them, because I'm afraid after that, I'll have two MetroExpress basses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) @BassAgent @asingardenof Has anybody on the FB group asked if they plan to do a Metro Express M24-5? Enquiring minds... Edited June 8, 2023 by Bigwan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Bigwan said: @BassAgent @asingardenof Has anybody on the FB group asked if they plan to do a Metro Express M24-5? Enquiring minds... No, but that will now change. RS has said they're looking into doing a MetroExpress P-bass though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 54 minutes ago, asingardenof said: No, but that will now change. RS has said they're looking into doing a MetroExpress P-bass though. Ooh! Colour me intrigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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