bubinga5 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Donalds 'Night Fly' Can anyone explain the bass notes in this song, in relation to the main chord progression.. I may be wrong but is Miller using Inversions alot...He seems to at the start of the song... Can anyone explain in simple talk?? I love Miller's playing in this by the way, its one of his best IMHO...... bloody awsome that guy is!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 To my ears, he plays the bass line like a harmony vocal part in some places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beneath It All Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) Doesn't even sound like MM to me, More AJ or Abe Laboriel..could be wrong of course and am willing to be corrected.....So far as the tune goes the notes are virtually all roots!! It's what you play inbetween those roots that makes for interesting music..Intro changes = Am9 - Bm11 - Cmaj7 - Em7 - D - F6/9 - B7 - G6/9 - C9 - Am7 - Daug add9. Edited June 16, 2009 by Beneath It All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I prefer new frontier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanSpeeltBas Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Abraham Laboriel told me about this record. Bass parts were played by several players and edited and compiled to one bass track. The credits on the CD name one player for each track which isn't quite complete...this record costed millions of dollars to make and it's so smooth and perfected I really don't like to listen to it...I gave away my copy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) [quote name='JanSpeeltBas' post='515807' date='Jun 16 2009, 10:10 PM']Abraham Laboriel told me about this record. Bass parts were played by several players and edited and compiled to one bass track. The credits on the CD name one player for each track which isn't quite complete...this record costed millions of dollars to make and it's so smooth and perfected I really don't like to listen to it...I gave away my copy...[/quote] Your thinking about it to much..Its a brilliantly crafted album..and a joy to listen to.....IMHO Edited June 16, 2009 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 [quote name='bubinga5' post='515814' date='Jun 16 2009, 10:17 PM']Your thinking about it to much..Its a brilliantly crafted album..and a joy to listen to.....IMHO[/quote] +1 Millions of $s? I knew it was gonna be a strange day today when a pig flew past and delivered the post. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rslaing Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Here's the lead sheet for you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I always want to move to california when i listen to anything to do with steely dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 It's in my top ten, it was my way into jazz harmony I developed my hunger from listening to that album, I can play every track note for note. GENIUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanSpeeltBas Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 [quote name='lowdown' post='515821' date='Jun 16 2009, 11:22 PM']+1 Millions of $s? I knew it was gonna be a strange day today when a pig flew past and delivered the post. Garry[/quote] Pigs flying? Interesting. Laboriel told this story: after many months and paying more than a million dollars of studiotime, musicians etc the record company asked Fagan when the record would be ready - when in fact he had only recorded three tracks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) A favorite vid of mine.. Fagan and Brecker.......Just amazing....... Cant remember the bassists name now but he plays ESP basses...Just remembered its Tom Barney.. Love it!!!! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylr2D4Pwn58"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylr2D4Pwn58[/url] Edited June 16, 2009 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Walk Beneath the Raindrops... Was it Will Lee on Bass? Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rslaing Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) [quote name='JanSpeeltBas' post='515858' date='Jun 16 2009, 10:43 PM']Pigs flying? Interesting. Laboriel told this story: after many months and paying more than a million dollars of studiotime, musicians etc the record company asked Fagan when the record would be ready - when in fact he had only recorded three tracks...[/quote] It's well documented that both Fagen and Becker are notorious for attention to detail, even down to mixing the contributions of various drummers on the same track. I mean, even taking the snare of one drummer, the bass drum of another, and the high hat of another, and combining them whilst excluding other elements of their drum kits, to finish the track. There is a video of Chuck Rainey somewhere, when he is casting some extremely disparaging remarks about Fagen and his approach in the recording process. He may have been "doing a wind up" but from what I recall, it didn't sound like it. It's such a shame that Fagen, being a brilliant songwriter, is losing his vocal range/ability (not that it was his strong point in the first place) as can be heard in some of his live recordings on Youtube. They certainly recruited some of the best musicians and bass players that would fit their genre, and to me, Tom Barney has to rank somewhere near the top. But Carolyn Leonhart (the best singer they have employed in the back line) has to be the best "member" of all time to watch Yes, she's the one in the red trousers :brow: And just how musical is the solo by Jon Hetherington the guitarist? Pass the tissues.............. Edited June 16, 2009 by rslaing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 (edited) I find donald fagens voice very soothing especially on the aja album,does the dude have something wrong with his back though he looks very hunched up all the time? Edited June 16, 2009 by YouMa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Funnily enough of all the great bass players they have (both Becker and Fagen) employed over the years, the one that I always think does the utmost perfect job for the track is Walter becker himself eg Hey Nineteen, Blues Beach lots on Kamakiriad. He is a great bass player in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rslaing Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 [quote name='jakesbass' post='515900' date='Jun 16 2009, 11:17 PM']Funnily enough of all the great bass players they have (both Becker and Fagen) employed over the years, the one that I always think does the utmost perfect job for the track is Walter becker himself eg Hey Nineteen, Blues Beach lots on Kamakiriad. He is a great bass player in my view.[/quote] Agreed, he plays some very melodic and memorable lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Isnt it becker on cant buy a thrill? I love that album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Steely Dan are, in the ears of favourable journalists, a perfectly cut diamond, brilliance beyond belief. In my opinion, they connect with me and me alone. No one loves Steely Dan as much as me. If music can do that to you, then it is truly special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Does anyone else find the mixing/mastering horribly weedy? Sonically it's not a patch on Aja. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Chill dude, it was the 80's. Digital all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 [quote name='steve-soar' post='515939' date='Jun 16 2009, 11:44 PM']Chill dude, it was the 80's. Digital all the way. [/quote] Ah, that'll be digital before they worked out how to make it sound good then. Not that I'm some sound obsessed speaker designing audiophile weirdo or anything... Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 [quote name='alexclaber' post='515944' date='Jun 16 2009, 11:48 PM']Not that I'm some sound obsessed speaker designing audiophile weirdo or anything...[/quote] Yes you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 [quote name='alexclaber' post='515944' date='Jun 16 2009, 11:48 PM']Ah, that'll be digital before they worked out how to make it sound good then. Not that I'm some sound obsessed speaker designing audiophile weirdo or anything... Alex[/quote] It think it was supposed to be the ideal reference CD at the time, Because of the pristine sound [of that time] Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 [quote name='alexclaber' post='515944' date='Jun 16 2009, 11:48 PM']Ah, that'll be digital before they worked out how to make it sound good then. Not that I'm some sound obsessed speaker designing audiophile weirdo or anything... Alex[/quote] Correct. It's an extremely articulate album but it don't swing, Dadd-e-o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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