NikNik Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 ...would you buy it? Hagstrom Super Swede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) For £200, maybe. EDIT - nearly spat my tea out when I saw it had been listed as "very good (used)" condition on Reverb. Are they high? With a band name like Mammoth Weed Wizard B'stard, there's a fair chance, I guess... Edited June 29, 2023 by neepheid 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francisabear Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Another Hagstrom neck crack here, I’m not sure how severe this would be… Hagstrom HB-8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, francisabear said: Another Hagstrom neck crack here, I’m not sure how severe this would be… Hagstrom HB-8 That's the rod coming through the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, NikNik said: ...would you buy it? Hagstrom Super Swede No need to worry. The seller has said it's just a crack in the lacquer. 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, francisabear said: Another Hagstrom neck crack here, I’m not sure how severe this would be… Hagstrom HB-8 WTF is it with these fantasists? "Small crack on back of neck", yet lists the condition as "Excellent (used)". I think someone's applied some reverb to their brain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Pah! There's nothing there that can't be fixed with a couple of 2" woodscrews ... 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 A mere scratch... I've had instruments with much worse wounds repaired. Just need to find a good luthier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 8 hours ago, NikNik said: ...would you buy it? Hagstrom Super Swede Yes but not at that price. That looks repairable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBass Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 39 minutes ago, TheGreek said: A mere scratch... I've had instruments with much worse wounds repaired. Just need to find a good luthier. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francisabear Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 12 hours ago, NikNik said: That's the rod coming through the back. How easily is this repairable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 8 hours ago, francisabear said: How easily is this repairable? That's major surgery, and it's unlikely the neck will ever be as strong again as it was when it left the factory. You'd never get back the money you'd have to spend to sort it properly. Not impossible (check out some of the Gibson neck repairs on https://www.youtube.com/@twoodfrd), but if I were buying it (and I'm not!) I'd be looking to source a new neck. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: That's major surgery, and it's unlikely the neck will ever be as strong again as it was when it left the factory. You'd never get back the money you'd have to spend to sort it properly. Not impossible (check out some of the Gibson neck repairs on https://www.youtube.com/@twoodfrd), but if I were buying it (and I'm not!) I'd be looking to source a new neck. Correct. I once saw a Taylor acoustic with such a crack, caused by continual tightening of the the truss rod to counteract an up-bowing neck. Unfixable. The guitar had to go to Taylor for a replacement neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 13 hours ago, uk_lefty said: Yes but not at that price. That looks repairable. Indeed it does. But I do wonder how long it's been like that. I'd be hard-pressed offering them £150 for that. A bit of a nerve being coy about that crack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, NikNik said: Correct. I once saw a Taylor acoustic with such a crack, caused by continual tightening of the the truss rod to counteract an up-bowing neck. Unfixable. The guitar had to go to Taylor for a replacement neck. If the neck had an upward bow tightening the truss rod would have been the diametrical wrong way to go too, which would only had worsened the problem. Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: If the neck had an upward bow tightening the truss rod would have been the diametrical wrong way to go too, which would only had worsened the problem. Huh? How would you propose pulling the neck straight, then? Edited June 30, 2023 by NikNik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NikNik said: Huh? Could you please elaborate? Huh as in that was not what you meant with up-bowing neck, or huh you think I am wrong (which I with 100% certainty am not)? Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, Baloney Balderdash said: Could you please elaborate? Huh as in that was not what you meant with up-bowing neck, or huh you think I am wrong, which I am not? See my second sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NikNik said: See my second sentence. 10 minutes ago, NikNik said: Huh? How would you propose pulling the neck straight, then? Loosen the truss rod sufficiently to let the string tension straighten the upward bow, as is what you are supposed to do. Truss rod will bow upwards when tightened, fixing a downward bow, but making an upward bow even worse. I think perhaps the confusion is down to you confusing upward bow with upward bending neck, which is not the same, when the neck bows upwards the neck will bend downwards on each side of the upward bow? Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Loosen the truss rod sufficiently to let the string tension straighten the upward bow, as is what you are supposed to do. Truss rod will bow upwards when tightened, fixing a downward bow, but making an upward bow even worse. The top image depicts up-bow. Up-bow is initially rectified by tightening the truss-rod, not g it. Loosening it would make the up-bow more pronounced, no? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NikNik said: The top image depicts up-bow. Up-bow is initially rectified by tightening the truss-rod, not g it. Loosening it would make the up-bow more pronounced, no? Well, while the neck is bending upwards on the first picture the actual bow is bending downwards, making is a downward bow. I might be wrong, but I think this description of this illustration is semantically wrong. As far as I know bend and bow would not mean the exact same thing in this context. Regardless if with good reason or not I obviously misunderstood what you meant. Just to let you know I am honestly not nit picking or trying to be contrary here, I honestly misunderstood what you wrote. And yes, going by the top drawing of that illustration tightening the truss rod would definitely be the right measure to take, regardless of how you word it. Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Well, while the neck is bending upwards on the first picture the actual bow is bending downwards, making is a downward bow. I might be wrong, but I think this description of this illustration is semantically wrong. As far as I know bend and bow would not mean the exact same thing in this context. Regardless if with good reason or not I obviously misunderstood what you meant. Just to let you know I am honestly not nit picking or trying to be contrary here, I honestly misunderstood what you wrote. Yes, going by the first picture tightening the truss rod would be the right measure to take, regardless how you word it. I see your interpretation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddo Soqable Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Kind of looks like it's broken the scarf joint, I'd say perfectly repairable, the fretboard would need to come off first etc etc.. I'd want to buy the thing very very cheap to start with if I was taking it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Waddo Soqable said: Kind of looks like it's broken the scarf joint, I'd say perfectly repairable, the fretboard would need to come off first etc etc.. I'd want to buy the thing very very cheap to start with if I was taking it on Didn't notice that before, but taking a closer look at the pictures again I think you are probably right, the supposed "finish crack" does follow where the scarf joint of the neck would be glued on suspiciously closely. I mean it is of course technically still a finish crack, just quite a bit more than just that, and would definitely not be the main issue here, but rather more of a symptom, if the scarf joint parting is really the actual culprit to it (which honestly seems very likely). Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Waddo Soqable said: Kind of looks like it's broken the scarf joint, I'd say perfectly repairable, the fretboard would need to come off first etc etc.. I'd want to buy the thing very very cheap to start with if I was taking it on You reckon it's a scarf joint? They're meant to be set necks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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