neepheid Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) For £200, maybe. EDIT - nearly spat my tea out when I saw it had been listed as "very good (used)" condition on Reverb. Are they high? With a band name like Mammoth Weed Wizard B'stard, there's a fair chance, I guess... Edited June 29, 2023 by neepheid 1 2 Quote
francisabear Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 Another Hagstrom neck crack here, I’m not sure how severe this would be… Hagstrom HB-8 1 1 Quote
NikNik Posted June 29, 2023 Author Posted June 29, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 11:02, francisabear said: Another Hagstrom neck crack here, I’m not sure how severe this would be… Hagstrom HB-8 Expand That's the rod coming through the back. Quote
Maude Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 10:54, NikNik said: ...would you buy it? Hagstrom Super Swede Expand No need to worry. The seller has said it's just a crack in the lacquer. 🙈 Quote
neepheid Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 11:02, francisabear said: Another Hagstrom neck crack here, I’m not sure how severe this would be… Hagstrom HB-8 Expand WTF is it with these fantasists? "Small crack on back of neck", yet lists the condition as "Excellent (used)". I think someone's applied some reverb to their brain. 2 Quote
Happy Jack Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 Pah! There's nothing there that can't be fixed with a couple of 2" woodscrews ... 2 3 Quote
TheGreek Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 A mere scratch... I've had instruments with much worse wounds repaired. Just need to find a good luthier. 1 Quote
uk_lefty Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 10:54, NikNik said: ...would you buy it? Hagstrom Super Swede Expand Yes but not at that price. That looks repairable. 1 Quote
BillyBass Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 18:53, TheGreek said: A mere scratch... I've had instruments with much worse wounds repaired. Just need to find a good luthier. Expand 3 Quote
francisabear Posted June 29, 2023 Posted June 29, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 11:05, NikNik said: That's the rod coming through the back. Expand How easily is this repairable? Quote
Happy Jack Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 23:06, francisabear said: How easily is this repairable? Expand That's major surgery, and it's unlikely the neck will ever be as strong again as it was when it left the factory. You'd never get back the money you'd have to spend to sort it properly. Not impossible (check out some of the Gibson neck repairs on https://www.youtube.com/@twoodfrd), but if I were buying it (and I'm not!) I'd be looking to source a new neck. 1 1 Quote
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 07:52, Happy Jack said: That's major surgery, and it's unlikely the neck will ever be as strong again as it was when it left the factory. You'd never get back the money you'd have to spend to sort it properly. Not impossible (check out some of the Gibson neck repairs on https://www.youtube.com/@twoodfrd), but if I were buying it (and I'm not!) I'd be looking to source a new neck. Expand Correct. I once saw a Taylor acoustic with such a crack, caused by continual tightening of the the truss rod to counteract an up-bowing neck. Unfixable. The guitar had to go to Taylor for a replacement neck. Quote
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 On 29/06/2023 at 19:00, uk_lefty said: Yes but not at that price. That looks repairable. Expand Indeed it does. But I do wonder how long it's been like that. I'd be hard-pressed offering them £150 for that. A bit of a nerve being coy about that crack. 1 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) On 30/06/2023 at 08:30, NikNik said: Correct. I once saw a Taylor acoustic with such a crack, caused by continual tightening of the the truss rod to counteract an up-bowing neck. Unfixable. The guitar had to go to Taylor for a replacement neck. Expand If the neck had an upward bow tightening the truss rod would have been the diametrical wrong way to go too, which would only had worsened the problem. Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) On 30/06/2023 at 09:10, Baloney Balderdash said: If the neck had an upward bow tightening the truss rod would have been the diametrical wrong way to go too, which would only had worsened the problem. Expand Huh? How would you propose pulling the neck straight, then? Edited June 30, 2023 by NikNik Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) On 30/06/2023 at 11:16, NikNik said: Huh? Expand Could you please elaborate? Huh as in that was not what you meant with up-bowing neck, or huh you think I am wrong (which I with 100% certainty am not)? Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 11:17, Baloney Balderdash said: Could you please elaborate? Huh as in that was not what you meant with up-bowing neck, or huh you think I am wrong, which I am not? Expand See my second sentence. Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) On 30/06/2023 at 11:18, NikNik said: See my second sentence. Expand On 30/06/2023 at 11:16, NikNik said: Huh? How would you propose pulling the neck straight, then? Expand Loosen the truss rod sufficiently to let the string tension straighten the upward bow, as is what you are supposed to do. Truss rod will bow upwards when tightened, fixing a downward bow, but making an upward bow even worse. I think perhaps the confusion is down to you confusing upward bow with upward bending neck, which is not the same, when the neck bows upwards the neck will bend downwards on each side of the upward bow? Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 11:21, Baloney Balderdash said: Loosen the truss rod sufficiently to let the string tension straighten the upward bow, as is what you are supposed to do. Truss rod will bow upwards when tightened, fixing a downward bow, but making an upward bow even worse. Expand The top image depicts up-bow. Up-bow is initially rectified by tightening the truss-rod, not g it. Loosening it would make the up-bow more pronounced, no? 1 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) On 30/06/2023 at 11:26, NikNik said: The top image depicts up-bow. Up-bow is initially rectified by tightening the truss-rod, not g it. Loosening it would make the up-bow more pronounced, no? Expand Well, while the neck is bending upwards on the first picture the actual bow is bending downwards, making is a downward bow. I might be wrong, but I think this description of this illustration is semantically wrong. As far as I know bend and bow would not mean the exact same thing in this context. Regardless if with good reason or not I obviously misunderstood what you meant. Just to let you know I am honestly not nit picking or trying to be contrary here, I honestly misunderstood what you wrote. And yes, going by the top drawing of that illustration tightening the truss rod would definitely be the right measure to take, regardless of how you word it. Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash 1 Quote
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 11:29, Baloney Balderdash said: Well, while the neck is bending upwards on the first picture the actual bow is bending downwards, making is a downward bow. I might be wrong, but I think this description of this illustration is semantically wrong. As far as I know bend and bow would not mean the exact same thing in this context. Regardless if with good reason or not I obviously misunderstood what you meant. Just to let you know I am honestly not nit picking or trying to be contrary here, I honestly misunderstood what you wrote. Yes, going by the first picture tightening the truss rod would be the right measure to take, regardless how you word it. Expand I see your interpretation. 1 Quote
Waddo Soqable Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Kind of looks like it's broken the scarf joint, I'd say perfectly repairable, the fretboard would need to come off first etc etc.. I'd want to buy the thing very very cheap to start with if I was taking it on Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) On 30/06/2023 at 11:46, Waddo Soqable said: Kind of looks like it's broken the scarf joint, I'd say perfectly repairable, the fretboard would need to come off first etc etc.. I'd want to buy the thing very very cheap to start with if I was taking it on Expand Didn't notice that before, but taking a closer look at the pictures again I think you are probably right, the supposed "finish crack" does follow where the scarf joint of the neck would be glued on suspiciously closely. I mean it is of course technically still a finish crack, just quite a bit more than just that, and would definitely not be the main issue here, but rather more of a symptom, if the scarf joint parting is really the actual culprit to it (which honestly seems very likely). Edited June 30, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote
NikNik Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 11:46, Waddo Soqable said: Kind of looks like it's broken the scarf joint, I'd say perfectly repairable, the fretboard would need to come off first etc etc.. I'd want to buy the thing very very cheap to start with if I was taking it on Expand You reckon it's a scarf joint? They're meant to be set necks Quote
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