simisker Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) Does anyone know of any aftermarket stacked/concentric knobs which could be used to replace some Warwick/Framus/MEC knobs? To fit 4mm upper / 6mm lower pots. That's not standard, apparently. EDIT for latecomers: they also need to be gold and metal. Edited January 21 by simisker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1968 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 So you changed pots and need knobs to fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) No, I've got a bass with a Noll preamp which has these 4mm/6mm Warwick knobs. They're good quality, but externally chunky, so when you have 4 of them on a Jazz control plate it doesn't leave much room for fingers. To improve the user experience for fat-fingered me, I was hoping that I'd be able to find some narrower replacements - like the John East ones on my ACGs, for example. But all I can find are ones that use the 6mm/8mm 'standard' inner measurements. Edited July 13, 2023 by simisker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1968 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) These any good? https://www.banzaimusic.com/dc-stacked-knob-chrome.html https://www.banzaimusic.com/gotoh-dome-knob-cc-black.html Edited July 13, 2023 by nige1968 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) I need gold ones, but yeah, here they are too: https://www.banzaimusic.com/gotoh-dome-knob-cc-gold.html These look perfect - cheers, Nige While I'm waiting for them to be delivered, I'm going to book myself in on a Google refresher course [ 2024 Edit: Looks like Banzai have changed the description/spec of these to 6/8mm since I ordered them ] Edited January 17 by simisker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 An update: I'd be wary of ordering from Banzai Music. It turns out that they're one of those companies who will happily give the impression of having items in stock, with "Delivery in 4-5 days" in order to seal the deal and get your money. Only when pushed will they admit that they're waiting on their supplier, apologise profusely etc. I've been waiting a month thus far; the only timescale I've been given was "hopefully in the coming days", which was over 2 weeks ago. Thankfully I'm not in a rush for them, but still: not particularly impressed with Banzai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill76 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I've had a couple of speaker parts from Banzai this year, 2-3 weeks turnaround each time but it seems emailing them after a week or so gets things moving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 An update in Jan 2024 [!] ... After 6 months of waiting, with no communication unless chased but them having my money all that time, I ran out of patience and cancelled my order with Banzai. I did receive a prompt full refund - probably the only positive interaction I had with this company. I won't be using or recommending Banzai Music again. Live and learn, eh? So... anyone know of anywhere else that sells/makes/machines these unusually specced knobs*? * yes, yes - johnpeel.jpg, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I've got a feeling that I got some from Bass Direct for a preamp that had a 4/6mm shaft. I couldn't swear to it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 https://www.thomann.de/gb/allparts_stacked_pot_knob_set_chrome.htm https://www.thomann.de/gb/allparts_stacked_pot_knob_set_bk.htm Helpfully, they neglect to give inner dimensions, you could enquire - https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_parts_ebony_dual_knob.htm - https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_parts_tintul_dual_knob.htm I take it this is what you're trying to replace? https://www.thomann.de/gb/warwick_potiknob_tandem_metal_2b.htm - https://www.thomann.de/gb/warwick_potiknob_tandem_metal_2c.htm - https://www.thomann.de/gb/warwick_potiknob_tandem_metal_2_g.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 (edited) @neepheid Them's the ones. They're good knobs on Warwicks or other through-body control setups, but 4 of them on a J control plate is a bit of a squeeze. I don't think those Allparts ones fit, from memory [it's been a while now!]. And I'm looking for gold ones, because I'm a shallow magpie. Some useful paths of investigation there, though. Thanks both 🙂 Of course, there's always the nuclear option: replace the Noll preamp with another 4-pot solution. Hmm... 🤔 Edited January 17 by simisker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I think you're going to struggle - most concentric knobs are a bit tubbier than single ones by design and function. Don't you get converter rings to put inside 6/8mm knobs to turn them into 6/4mm knobs, or did I dream that somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 Finding slimmer concentrics isn't a problem; it's getting them to fit the shafts - the John East concentrics on my ACGs are noticeably slimmer [and in my opinion, nicer to use] than the Warwick ones, for example. Converters or sleeves could be an option - but I haven't found any yet. I can't even swap out the control plate + pre-amp to another manufacturer - For example, John East is having trouble sourcing gold hardware, Audere don't ship out of the US, and Lusithand don't do gold at all. I guess I'm stuck with what I have, then. Who would have guessed that swapping some knobs would have been such a palaver? 😄 Anyway, it was only a small quality-of-life improvement, so no biggy in the scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, simisker said: Converters or sleeves could be an option - but I haven't found any yet. Make your own out of some 1mm thick metal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 (edited) That's also an option, I suppose. Not much of a maker, but in the immortal words: how hard could it be? Actually, giving it a moment's thought: I'd need to account for the side-mounted screw fixing system, for one thing. Yeah, it's already getting beyond my skill/effort/reward equation Edited January 17 by simisker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 http://knobshop.com/Concentric-Aluminum-Knob-lined-black-anodized perhaps? Who'd have thought there was a shop just for knobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMoon Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 17/01/2024 at 21:43, neepheid said: Make your own out of some 1mm thick metal? This^^^^ I’ve used the alloy from a standard ring-pull can and wrapped a suitably sized piece around while jamming the ends into split shafts. Are your pots solid shaft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 15 hours ago, tauzero said: http://knobshop.com/Concentric-Aluminum-Knob-lined-black-anodized perhaps? Who'd have thought there was a shop just for knobs? Thanks but that site feels dodgy AF. Not secure, no shop/contact address... big fat nope. 2 minutes ago, BlueMoon said: This^^^^ I’ve used the alloy from a standard ring-pull can and wrapped a suitably sized piece around while jamming the ends into split shafts. Are your pots solid shaft? If the bass was a Squier or something, then yeah, maybe... but it's a £2k+ Marusczyzk. I'm feeling guilty just typing the words "Jamming" and "Ring-pull can" while in the same room as it. Full Macgyver points, though, fair play. I'd definitely want to be locked in an outbuilding by goons with you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, simisker said: Thanks but that site feels dodgy AF. Not secure, no shop/contact address... big fat nope. http://knobshop.com/Terms-of-service section II 1. Identity of the seller Robert Hannappel Am Schicksbaum 43 47804 Krefeld Deutschland Telephone: 49(0)2151 3627069 E-Mail: [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simisker Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 (edited) Hidden deep within the ToS, eh? Right next to the sign that says "Vorsicht vor dem Leoparden!"? 😉 I think I'll pass. Me and German online retailers aren't getting on at the moment. Anyway, it's moot - they don't have what I want. Ta once again, however Edited January 21 by simisker Correcting some German. I think. I could be making it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Can't you just cut a small slice of aluminium tube? Are these the right sizes? 8mm OD 6mm ID: 6mm OD 4mm ID : You would probably find that the knob grub screw puts enough pressure on the ali to hold the knob tight and so not have to drill a hole. If not, then thin aluminium is pretty easy to drill (easier to drill first and then cut the slice off) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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