Happy Jack Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Paging @Owen https://the-bace.com/ Just saying ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 No B. End of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 It's an interesting idea, although given that it can't be bowed, it doesn't need to be built with the conventional cello shape; a different shape might be easier to play on your lap like a bass guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBus Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, JoeEvans said: It's an interesting idea, although given that it can't be bowed, it doesn't need to be built with the conventional cello shape; a different shape might be easier to play on your lap like a bass guitar. They can make you one with a bowable neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 hours ago, BassBus said: They can make you one with a bowable neck. Yes - I was more thinking that if you're not going to bow a bass, you don't need it to be such an awkward shape to hold on your lap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 23 hours ago, Owen said: No B. End of. B as in bow or B string? He does a 5 string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 9 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: B as in bow or B string? He does a 5 string. That ends my argument then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Dum idea. As a child I would put my half size cello across my knees and strum it pretending to be George Harrison. Never worked. Shape all wrong. Just get a double bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 How loud is it acoustically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, paul_c2 said: How loud is it acoustically? Orch stringed instruments tend to be a whole lot louder bowed than pizz so I doubt this pumps out a whole lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Beedster said: Orch stringed instruments tend to be a whole lot louder bowed than pizz so I doubt this pumps out a whole lot Pickups. Amp. But tis true, a plucked cello is not loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 The R and D on acoustic bass instruments was done pretty thoroughly about 400 years ago and it turns out that the answer looks like a double bass. Then 70-odd years ago another round of work was done in electric bass instruments and the outcome was the bass guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 27 minutes ago, JoeEvans said: The R and D on acoustic bass instruments was done pretty thoroughly about 400 years ago and it turns out that the answer looks like a double bass. Then 70-odd years ago another round of work was done in electric bass instruments and the outcome was the bass guitar. Sums it up 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, NickA said: Pickups. Amp. But tis true, a plucked cello is not loud. Of course but the question was about acoustic - not amplified - volume, and this will be low. It’s why string sections are the largest in the orchestra, takes close to a hundred of them to keep up with the much smaller brass and woodwind sections, plus when strings are pizz the rest of the orchestra tends to have to play rather quietly. A section of cellos can be pretty loud, but a single trumpet probably wins on volume 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 100 was probably an overestimate 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 64/90 are strings in a symphony orchestra apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 I do quite like the Bace though 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 21 hours ago, Beedster said: but a single trumpet probably wins on volume Trumpeters Volume? Check. High notes? Check. Subtlety? Not always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 My orchestra has 12 first violins, 10 second violins, 6 violas and 12 cellos (National Viola shortage). However we only have 5 basses ... we could have 7 from time to time but our venues are too small. Mostly bowed not pizz of course. You really do need something double bass sized to adequately transmit those low notes - same reason electric bass players use big speaker cones (or lots of small ones in the case of my PJB stuff). We have been banned from one local church for being too loud ... but I blame the heavy brass for that 🙂 This Bace thing, discomfort aside, will never be usefully loud enough without its pickups and amplification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I don't think the bace is intended as an acoustic instrument any more than a hollow body electric guitar is an acoustic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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