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[Happy Jack]

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https://the-bace.com/

 

Just saying ...

 

[Owen]

No B. End of. 

[JoeEvans]

It's an interesting idea, although given that it can't be bowed, it doesn't need to be built with the conventional cello shape; a different shape might be easier to play on your lap like a bass guitar.

[BassBus]

4 hours ago, JoeEvans said:

It's an interesting idea, although given that it can't be bowed, it doesn't need to be built with the conventional cello shape; a different shape might be easier to play on your lap like a bass guitar.

They can make you one with a bowable neck.

[JoeEvans]

5 hours ago, BassBus said:

They can make you one with a bowable neck.

Yes - I was more thinking that if you're not going to bow a bass, you don't need it to be such an awkward shape to hold on your lap.

[Downunderwonder]

23 hours ago, Owen said:

No B. End of. 

B as in bow or B string? He does a 5 string.

[Owen]

9 hours ago, Downunderwonder said:

B as in bow or B string? He does a 5 string.

That ends my argument then!

[NickA]

Dum idea.  As a child I would put my half size cello across my knees and strum it pretending to be George Harrison.  Never worked.  Shape all wrong.  Just get a double bass.

[paul_c2]

How loud is it acoustically?

[Beedster]

9 minutes ago, paul_c2 said:

How loud is it acoustically?

Orch stringed instruments tend to be a whole lot louder bowed than pizz so I doubt this pumps out a whole lot

[NickA]

5 hours ago, Beedster said:

Orch stringed instruments tend to be a whole lot louder bowed than pizz so I doubt this pumps out a whole lot

Pickups. Amp. But tis true, a plucked cello is not loud.

[JoeEvans]

The R and D on acoustic bass instruments was done pretty thoroughly about 400 years ago and it turns out that the answer looks like a double bass. Then 70-odd years ago another round of work was done in electric bass instruments and the outcome was the bass guitar. 

[Beedster]

27 minutes ago, JoeEvans said:

The R and D on acoustic bass instruments was done pretty thoroughly about 400 years ago and it turns out that the answer looks like a double bass. Then 70-odd years ago another round of work was done in electric bass instruments and the outcome was the bass guitar. 

Sums it up 👍

[Beedster]

1 hour ago, NickA said:

Pickups. Amp. But tis true, a plucked cello is not loud.

Of course but the question was about acoustic - not amplified - volume, and this will be low. It’s why string sections are the largest in the orchestra, takes close to a hundred of them to keep up with the much smaller brass and woodwind sections, plus when strings are pizz the rest of the orchestra tends to have to play rather quietly. A section of cellos can be pretty loud, but a single trumpet probably wins on volume 👍

[Beedster]

100 was probably an overestimate 🤔

[Beedster]

64/90 are strings in a symphony orchestra apparently 

[Beedster]

I do quite like the Bace though 👍

[Owen]

21 hours ago, Beedster said:

but a single trumpet probably wins on volume

Trumpeters 

 

Volume? Check.

High notes? Check.

Subtlety? Not always. 

[NickA]

My orchestra has 12 first violins, 10 second violins, 6 violas and 12 cellos (National Viola shortage).  However we only have 5 basses ... we could have 7 from time to time but our venues are too small.  Mostly bowed not pizz of course.

 

You really do need something double bass sized to adequately transmit those low notes - same reason electric bass players use big speaker cones (or lots of small ones in the case of my PJB stuff).

 

We have been banned from one local church for being too loud ... but I blame the heavy brass for that 🙂

 

This Bace thing, discomfort aside, will never be usefully loud enough without its pickups and amplification.

[Downunderwonder]

I don't think the bace is intended as an acoustic instrument any more than a hollow body electric guitar is an acoustic.