funkyjazz Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 In the last years I have been a fan of the "no amp" party. I have gone in ears and enjoyed the sound coming from my Noble di after a Cali76 and a Empress Paraeq. With such a setup the backline amp was only for display. In the last week I have started to think that I could use my UAD Apollo solo as a live rig also. I found a dream sound with the Helios 69 plugin in parallel with either a B15 or a 800RB GK plugin I was wondering how do you guys would go about integrating it with the Noble DI and eventually with the Cali76-TX I currently use. I mean there are great simulations of the 1176 on the Apollo anyway. I think it is worth keeping a bit of control with a Paraeq maybe. Would you use the Noble at all? Would it give me something more? How would you connect the Noble and the Apollo? I thought bass -> Cali76-TX (if at all) -> apollo -> Noble -> xlr to FOH (and eventually jack out to amp) Would I need anything between the apollo and the NOble (which has 10MOhm input impedence) Do you guys see any drawbacks with it all? (I know I need my laptop to power the apollo, I accounted for this problem) More specifically would you put the UAD first and then the Noble? Do I need to put a reamp box between them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaesthesia Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) I have doing shows a while now with an Apollo, a Neve DI… and for FX I have compressors, choruses, and Moog filters on the UA platform on console. I run one channel with an Amp sim, usually an Ampeg, sometimes GK via the thru output of the Neve. The Neve feeds another channel where I run a mic pre, usually a Neve sim, sometimes an Avalon, sometimes SSL…. On the floor so have a Shiftline Olympic that I run ‘thru’…if the UA setup fails that’s the backup. All these years, all sorts of rack rigs etc, never been happier with the sound in the IEM and FOH. Figured why buy new gear like the Quad Cortex etc when I have an old Mac that works….and I have all the plugins. Edited June 25 by synaesthesia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Watching this thread with interest 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjazz Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 Interested in how you implement the fallback in case of failure of the apollo signal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaesthesia Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) It’s stable. The Ampeg VR plugin has 4 built in presets, so I can go from clean SVT to grind with a click on the trackpad. For funk tunes, I use the Neve channel. I suppose you could blend but I prefer to mute either channel and just use one or the other. The FX are in inserts for comps or EQ, or Moog; but the chorus is in the aux send - you can mute the aux channel, and turn on or off the fx. The signal to FOH is via the Apollo output. There are two fall backs, (one) is to feed the FOH via Neve DI, and switch the output at pedalboard from through to output at the Shiftline Olympic, which has a more Fender Showman Amp, or Alembic preamp type sound. Or (two) feed FOH via the Olympic from the pedalboard directly; it is actually very versatile-you can drive it a bit and you can get clean tones, and you can use IRs or bypass. Radu Varga has an app that allows midi control over the apollo so i can do foot-tap switching; I have the kit but haven’t programmed it. Edited June 25 by synaesthesia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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