pete.young Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 8 hours ago, wateroftyne said: Ideally, it would be useful to see insights into forum browsing vs. search. Does anyone click through the individual forums to browse the topics anymore? Yes. It's a relatively small number of forums. I prefer not to have default home screen that shows loads of popular threads in forums I don't read, unless as BRX says there's an option to revert to the traditional view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 You can bookmark any customised page you like as your default. I made a custom stream to show latest threads as I like to scan across the forum and rarely use the main index unless I’m looking for something specific. I say with this new forum just wait and see how it develops. If we end up with people getting lost then we can move it, not that I’m the one who’s deciding. I do still feel that pinned threads are a waste of time and counterproductive. Popular threads will stay near the top if they’re popular. Participants will be able to find them if they’re following. And pinning things is a good way to make them invisible, as usually the pinned stuff is rules and other T&Cs which again I’d argue don’t need pinning - there are better options such as announcements, forum sub pages and so forth nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, ped said: I do still feel that pinned threads are a waste of time and counterproductive. Popular threads will stay near the top if they’re popular. Participants will be able to find them if they’re following. And pinning things is a good way to make them invisible, as usually the pinned stuff is rules and other T&Cs which again I’d argue don’t need pinning - there are better options such as announcements, forum sub pages and so forth nowadays. 100%. Pin Blindness is a thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I think this thread is in the wrong place. It is a Site Issues and Questions thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Needs a poll added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Actually, it could do with being a sticky so more people see it. 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 14 hours ago, ped said: I do still feel that pinned threads are a waste of time and counterproductive. Popular threads will stay near the top if they’re popular. Participants will be able to find them if they’re following. And pinning things is a good way to make them invisible, as usually the pinned stuff is rules and other T&Cs which again I’d argue don’t need pinning - there are better options such as announcements, forum sub pages and so forth nowadays. I frequent another music forum where serval of the sub fora have so many pinned threads that the first unpinned one is off the bottom of the "page" on a 23" monitor! Consequently the first thing I do when browsing these is automatically scroll past everything that is pinned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, BigRedX said: I frequent another music forum where serval of the sub fora have so many pinned threads that the first unpinned one is off the bottom of the "page" on a 23" monitor! Consequently the first thing I do when browsing these is automatically scroll past everything that is pinned. Exactly. They’re pointless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 07/09/2023 at 08:00, wateroftyne said: Ideally, it would be useful to see insights into forum browsing vs. search. Does anyone click through the individual forums to browse the topics anymore? Its worth considering how its viewed by new users, certainly if I'm new to a forum, (and often when browsing anyway) I'll look at the various subforums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, paul_c2 said: Its worth considering how its viewed by new users, certainly if I'm new to a forum, (and often when browsing anyway) I'll look at the various subforums. I’m the opposite- I’d rather see a recent thread list so I can really get a feel for what it’s like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 It probably depends on how you browse. I have Basschat open in a tab of my browser all the time while I'm working so I can quickly dip in and see what's happening while I'm waiting for a 3D render or for Photoshop to process a 2GB file, and because of this the default view works fine for me. If I'm really keen to keep up with what is being posted I can push the window onto my third monitor which is only used about 50% of the time for work. I rarely "follow" any threads because it's easy to see which ones have new posts. On the other hand if I was on a mobile device and viewing once a day or less I might find one of the alternative arrangements more suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 07/09/2023 at 08:00, wateroftyne said: Does anyone click through the individual forums to browse the topics anymore? Me. On 07/09/2023 at 09:00, wateroftyne said: I reckon there's a case for the homepage to default to a 'most recent threads' list. Please don't do this. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 6 hours ago, ped said: Exactly. They’re pointless! In all fairness Chris, a pin without a point isn't really a pin. Hey - I'm just saying ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Bluejay Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Please don't default to most recent. That's exactly how I do NOT use the forum. If you prefer to add a setting that allows each user to choose their own default opening page when they log in, that's fine, but please don't impose such change on everybody with no way out. I'm usually completely uninterested in what the latest threads are. I tend to either have a quick scan (with mod hat on) or go to my favourite threads, which I also follow by email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, Silvia Bluejay said: Please don't default to most recent. That's exactly how I do NOT use the forum. If you prefer to add a setting that allows each user to choose their own default opening page when they log in, that's fine, but please don't impose such change on everybody with no way out. I'm usually completely uninterested in what the latest threads are. I tend to either have a quick scan (with mod hat on) or go to my favourite threads, which I also follow by email. Who said anything about no way out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Bluejay Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, wateroftyne said: Who said anything about no way out? Good. But I don't see any reason whatsoever to change the current state of affairs. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 It's been awhile now but when I first came over it was a stupid battle to find the buttons to get what I wanted, forums, rather than the latest post of the latest blab on every damn thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkin Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 07/09/2023 at 08:00, wateroftyne said: Does anyone click through the individual forums to browse the topics anymore? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGBass Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 07/09/2023 at 08:00, wateroftyne said: Does anyone click through the individual forums to browse the topics anymore? Aye. I still find it the best way to locate what interests me most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 That’s interesting. It just seems a really cumbersome way to do it to me. To each their own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 5 hours ago, wateroftyne said: cumbersome Would be scanning through pages and pages of uninteresting new yap to find interesting yap. 5 hours ago, wateroftyne said: To each their own! Absolutely. Now why can't we have the PA forum in Gear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: Would be scanning through pages and pages of uninteresting new yap to find interesting yap. Absolutely. Now why can't we have the PA forum in Gear? I dunno.. if you use BC fairly regularly, you can see pretty much all the recent activity in one place with a click or two. It also means you won't miss stuff that might have otherwise missed your attention 'cos it wasn't is the 'right' forum. As to your other point... it's not a question for me. But if it was, I'd be reluctant to add more sub-forums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 On 07/09/2023 at 09:00, wateroftyne said: I reckon there's a case for the homepage to default to a 'most recent threads' list. Much more interesting and engaging than a flat list of forum titles. The problem with this approach is that it guarantees that what Basschat will offer you is what other people are interested in, and you're straight into social media territory. What I want to see is what I am interested in, and I reckon I'm the best judge of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Just now, Happy Jack said: The problem with this approach is that it guarantees that what Basschat will offer you is what other people are interested in, and you're straight into social media territory. What I want to see is what I am interested in, and I reckon I'm the best judge of that. Fairy nuff. I like to see everything recent in one list. You never know what you might miss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: Fairy nuff. I like to see everything recent in one list. You never know what you might miss... I suspect that for a Mod your approach works really well, Michael. For a mere browser such as me, the steam-powered route is just fine. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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