One time GDPR pop up will be appearing from Wedneday.

[3below]

  On 27/09/2023 at 13:15, ezbass said:

I found the pop up massively unclear and misleading. The + or - sign and then a box for a consent tick. What happens if you leave the box unticked, but the plus sign remains? Conversely, what if the box is ticked, but you leave a minus sign? It should not be this opaque and smacks of prevarication.

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Prevarication is a generous assessment. It is design to negate any user choice.

[bloke_zero]

It was mostly unticked for me, except a few which, like Velarian, were pre-ticked but greyed out so couldn't untick them.

[BigRedX]

  On 27/09/2023 at 13:23, bloke_zero said:

It was mostly unticked for me, except a few which, like Velarian, were pre-ticked but greyed out so couldn't untick them.

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A few? I t was over 60 if you took your time to scroll through the whole list.

[choob.squeemer]

ah ok - so I looked at the vendors list - loads and loads and loads of them - these boxes didn't have ticks - they had a plus sign to the right of them  

 

really not sure if I would need to tick each one to stop them or leave them unticked - if I need to tick them it would take a very long time 

 

I didn't click onto the other column - probably another long list of god knows what 

[binky_bass]

I can only assume that if the box is unticked, then you're not providing them data. If it's anything other than that then I'd argue its false representation and bordering on illegal practices. The box is empty with the word 'consent' next to it so for me the only way to interpret that is that if I tick it, I consent, if I don't tick it, I haven't consented.

[choob.squeemer]

I just re-read what atsampson wrote near the bottom of page 1 

 

he says we would need to tick all those boxes to stop them 

 

and he says his job is in this field - so he should know I guess 

[Cato]

Has anyone worked out how to get rid of the little orange privacy box yet?

 

I don't know why I find such a small thing so irritating and distracting, but I do.

 

 

[Magister Ludi]

  On 27/09/2023 at 10:11, Dad3353 said:

I'm in France, with a VPN running from a UK IP address. The message came up in English, and all options pre-ticked to acceptance, with no option to refuse all but 'essentials'. This, to me, is unacceptable, and does not ispire confidence in the motives of this outfit. During the initial Test phase, I laboriously went through all of it and 'un-ticked' it all. I am not willing to do this again.

Whilst this remains, I shall not be participating in Basschat; I'll be back when it's gone, or not at all, whichever comes the sooner. Meanwhile, my avatar and signature will be changed to ...

 

I'm with DAD...

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[binky_bass]

  On 27/09/2023 at 12:05, atsampson said:

As someone who does ethics and data protection review for research projects as part of my day job, the interface design here is stunningly bad. In order to not consent to tracking, you have to individually click on dozens of tiny checkboxes - realistically, nobody is going to do that, so this is not meaningful consent. You need to ask a clear yes/no question, not attempt to force users into agreeing with what you want. (And, realistically, I think it's very unlikely that you can actually meet UK/EU data protection requirements if you are "sharing" data with that many "partners" - there is no way to do meaningful review.)

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@dewww - can you please clarify this?

 

Can you clearly advise whether we NEED to tick every box to refuse consent or, as is very much implied, do we leave the box unticked to refuse consent?

[nilebodgers]

I can’t believe how many vendors there are. It’s like a hydra of scammers with randomly generated names.

[choob.squeemer]

Hi  winky bass - I think if you want jack  ( @dewww)  to reply you may need to ask it in the sub section set up by kiwi 

 

the one headed - Introducing Ezoic - the sub section is at the top of the page on the right hand side - 

 

originally jack said he was open for questions for 7 days - maybe he will still reply

[choob.squeemer]

err sorry - should have been binky bass   damned auto spell 

[Velarian]

  On 27/09/2023 at 13:15, ezbass said:

I found the pop up massively unclear and misleading. The + or - sign and then a box for a consent tick. What happens if you leave the box unticked, but the plus sign remains? Conversely, what if the box is ticked, but you leave a minus sign? It should not be this opaque and smacks of prevarication.

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I believe that the +/- is to simply reveal or hide the description of purpose for processing and it doesn’t affect the consent status of the tick box.

 

I wonder if the initial state of the tick boxes is different depending on what device/browser is being used. I’m using Safari on iOS and all the tick boxes were pre-selected. It was a right royal pain to manually deselect them all. 

[BigRedX]

  On 27/09/2023 at 15:13, Velarian said:

I wonder if the initial state of the tick boxes is different depending on what device/browser is being used. I’m using Safari on iOS and all the tick boxes were pre-selected. It was a right royal pain to manually deselect them all. 

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Safari on MacOS had them all deselected apart from the ones that you can't deselect. The same with Opera which I'm now using to sandbox Basschat.

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[choob.squeemer]

Im using safari - on the vendors list all the boxes were unticked 

[ezbass]

  On 27/09/2023 at 15:13, Velarian said:

I believe that the +/- is to simply reveal or hide the description of purpose for processing and it doesn’t affect the consent status of the tick box.

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I tried changing it and it did sweet FA, no extra info or anything. 
 

This is the 2nd outing for Ezoic and they’ve dropped the ball again, whether this is incompetence or obfuscation is unclear, although I suspect the latter. Do get me started on the side tab, ‘one time’? Not so much 😤.

[Velarian]

  On 27/09/2023 at 15:23, ezbass said:

I tried changing it and it did sweet FA, no extra info or anything. 
 

This is the 2nd outing for Ezoic and they’ve dropped the ball again, whether this is incompetence or obfuscation is unclear, although I suspect the latter. Do get me started on the side tab, ‘one time’? Not so much 😤.

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Interesting. The fact that they can’t manage to present a consistent experience across different browsers/platforms suggests a degree of incompetence but I think obfuscation is still a likely aim. 

[Ricky 4000]

  On 27/09/2023 at 14:31, Cato said:

Has anyone worked out how to get rid of the little orange privacy box yet?

 

I don't know why I find such a small thing so irritating and distracting, but I do.

 

 

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On my phone screen its floating over the posts I'm trying to read!

[Velarian]

  On 27/09/2023 at 15:16, choob.squeemer said:

Im using safari - on the vendors list all the boxes were unticked 

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Just checked the site on my iPad (Safari/iOS) and all of the consents were un-ticked (apart from the greyed out ones). I wonder if some tweaking of the defaults has been carried out during the course of the day?

 

All of this speculation is all well and good but how do we know that our explicit settings are actually being honoured? It could all be a placebo to make us think we’re in control. Call me cynical but any trust I might have had has completely evaporated. ☹️

[Ricky 4000]

  On 27/09/2023 at 15:48, Ricky 4000 said:

 

On my phone screen its floating over the posts I'm trying to read!

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[taunton-hobbit]

I appear to have over 10,000 tracking cookies - I can clear them with CCleaner, but why the hell should I have to ?

and btw, my Adblock don't kill the 'privacy' tab ..............

 

😎

[Bix]

Why does the Privacy settings icon continue to be displayed on all pages even after I have confirmed my settings?

[Raslee]

Whatdafeck !

[3below]

  On 27/09/2023 at 19:38, Bix said:

Why does the Privacy settings icon continue to be displayed on all pages even after I have confirmed my settings?

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Poor web scripting! However by installing Adblock Plus and using the block element feature I have stopped the b*****d thing appearing. 

 

 

 

 

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[spacecowboy]

What the hell?
 

Have people actually seen the vendor list you’re potentially voluntarily and forcibly consenting to? I’m on an iPhone and I can scroll non stop down a list of companies I’ve never heard of for minutes, there’s hundreds of them, on my phone all pre consented to, and some vendors have an automatic consent tick box that you can’t untick? If you have a spare hour you can untick the ones that let you and suffer the rest. 
 

I don’t consent to any of these third parties having my data. There are no reject all options, so what are my options as a PAYING user on this platform? 
 

Is my only option to stop using the site? 

seriously what gives?