Misdee Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: For me, in the early 80s, Stonehenge was a nono as it was a place mostly for the biker gangs to sell drugs, beat people up and prove what big men they were. Reading was much more a music festival for rock bands. Glastonbury was more a hippy festival with more than music, and also the oportunity of doing your own music, but also comedy / talks, other arts and for people who wanted to wander round and enjoy their time with the people they went with. There was music on, but it was more incidental during the day with some acts in the evening to wander down to to round the day off. Very different to what it is now. Absolutely this. Edited July 2 by Misdee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misdee Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 11 minutes ago, tegs07 said: It seems to me that the festival experience these days is far more joyous and celebratory than it ever was. The audience really get into the spirit and are much more respectful and supportive of each other. My teenage kids were really looked after by the crowd (Reading being an exception as there were just too many school leavers who couldn’t handle their booze). It’s true that festivals are far more commercialised than before and far more expensive but I think people genuinely have a liminal experience and there is a more joyful atmosphere than back in the day. Personally speaking the risk, the sexual harassment, the bullying can all stay back in the ‘70s. That's fair enough, but isn't it interesting that the safer we have apparently become as a society, the more fearful we seem to be. Let's just hope this country doesn't have to go to war in the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Having very quickly tired of Dua Lipa**, I tried watching Jungle on BBC4 the other night, but while they sounded good the lights immediately made it totally unwatchable for me. I've never seen so much strobing in my life. If they didn't trigger at least one seizure in the audience, I'll be amazed. The goddamned things are dangerous. ** what does the team think regarding the widespread accusations that she was lip-synching? Was/wasn't she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 34 minutes ago, Misdee said: Let's just hope this country doesn't have to go to war in the foreseeable future. Well we have a depleted military, no money and no manufacturing base so it would be over pretty quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Glastonbury under fire for scheduling issues https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13591165/Glastonbury-fans-SLAM-festival-organisers-Avril-Lavigne-overcrowded-stage-SZA-crowds.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 57 minutes ago, tegs07 said: It seems to me that the festival experience these days is far more joyous and celebratory than it ever was. The audience really get into the spirit and are much more respectful and supportive of each other. I think glastonbury was always like that. I went there first as a 16 year old kid, and I had no hassle at all, people were friendly and inclusive, very different to some of the other festivals such as reading - where we got all our stuff nicked and had to spend a lot of the day after in Thames Valley waiting to identify it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 15 minutes ago, Rich said: ** what does the team think regarding the widespread accusations that she was lip-synching? Was/wasn't she? I don't think she was as a few things she sounded a bit knackered while singing, and I dout that would have happened with lip sync. I think she did better with her dancing as there was a big issue with it before, personally I don't think she is a natural with that, and could do without it anyway (very forumula), but it is what is expected of female pop artists so I guess she doesn't have a choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 13 minutes ago, PaulWarning said: Glastonbury under fire for scheduling issues https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13591165/Glastonbury-fans-SLAM-festival-organisers-Avril-Lavigne-overcrowded-stage-SZA-crowds.html People love complaining even more than they love Avril Lavigne. Next year they should have a big stage where people can complain things are not as good as the olden times, it'll sell out no problem. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 ' Course I remember when all this were fields...........oh, wait .............' 😎 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 19 minutes ago, Doctor J said: Next year they should have a big stage where people can complain things are not as good as the olden times, it'll sell out no problem. Basschat could sponsor.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 45 minutes ago, Rich said: Having very quickly tired of Dua Lipa**, I tried watching Jungle on BBC4 the other night, but while they sounded good the lights immediately made it totally unwatchable for me. I've never seen so much strobing in my life. If they didn't trigger at least one seizure in the audience, I'll be amazed. The goddamned things are dangerous. ** what does the team think regarding the widespread accusations that she was lip-synching? Was/wasn't she? From what I watched I don`t think she was. Whereas another artist, well she has to be a ventriloquist as at one point the mic was held at arms length, her mouth was closed, yet the vocals were perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 56 minutes ago, PaulWarning said: Glastonbury under fire for scheduling issues https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13591165/Glastonbury-fans-SLAM-festival-organisers-Avril-Lavigne-overcrowded-stage-SZA-crowds.html Dangerously unsafe? It is a field. If there is no room in the field don't go in the field! How does anyone know beforehand if someone is going to be popular on a day or not? I mean I would have gone to see avril lavigne, but if it was too crowded I would have left, not a fan of crowds. I don't know who SZA is because I am old and she hasn't come onto my radar (which is odd, I go to tesco all the time) but I would probably wander along and look. I think the advantage of these things is you can listen for a bit and wander off if you are not impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 21 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: From what I watched I don`t think she was. Whereas another artist, well she has to be a ventriloquist as at one point the mic was held at arms length, her mouth was closed, yet the vocals were perfect. Ooooh! Who?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 minutes ago, Marky L said: Ooooh! Who?? It was a young person (once they`re under 30 that`s all I can offer) with dark hair. No idea who she is though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumOne Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Dangerously unsafe? It is a field. If there is no room in the field don't go in the field! How does anyone know beforehand if someone is going to be popular on a day or not? I dunno. You can get crushed in a crowd in a field, some stages/access can handle bigger crowds than others and I would think one of the main jobs of festival organisers is to understand popularity of artists/timings beforehand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 44 minutes ago, SumOne said: I dunno. You can get crushed in a crowd in a field, some stages/access can handle bigger crowds than others and I would think one of the main jobs of festival organisers is to understand popularity of artists/timings beforehand. Donington 1988 😟 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Indeed, from what I`ve read apparently one of the guys who sadly lost their lives could only be identified by his tattoos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steantval Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Just seen some of the Avril Lavigne set on YouTube, excellent performance, top notch vocals and backing band, really rocking to a capacity 70k crowd. I agree with a lot of the comments directed at the festival organisers that she deserved the bigger stage, more worthy than a couple of the female performers who shall remain nameless, who’s performances were at best mediocre. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 minutes ago, steantval said: Just seen some of the Avril Lavigne set on YouTube, excellent performance, top notch vocals and backing band, really rocking to a capacity 70k crowd. I agree with a lot of the comments directed at the festival organisers that she deserved the bigger stage, more worthy than a couple of the female performers who shall remain nameless, who’s performances were at best mediocre. just watched the whole set on catch up, she was excellent, in fact it's the only artist I've been able to watch all the way through 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2 hours ago, SumOne said: I dunno. You can get crushed in a crowd in a field, some stages/access can handle bigger crowds than others and I would think one of the main jobs of festival organisers is to understand popularity of artists/timings beforehand. I can't believe you could get crushed in an Avril Lavigne mosh pit! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 3 hours ago, SumOne said: I dunno. You can get crushed in a crowd in a field, some stages/access can handle bigger crowds than others and I would think one of the main jobs of festival organisers is to understand popularity of artists/timings beforehand. Glastonbury is organised by Melvin Benn/Festival Republic who do all the big festivals and (from working on the staff side of these festivals) have a generally excellent grasp of crowd dynamics which is why crowd crushes are luckily so vanishingly rare compared to the size of the huge crowds wandering around these gigs. Sometimes you can't predict whether an artist will catch a moment, sometimes you're hamstrung by what's happening with the rest of the line-up negotiations, sometimes they can only do a certain time slot due to other scheduling issues. There is also a difference between people feeling unsafe and the stage actually reaching rated capacity - ideal world you don't want either to happen, but A is unfortunate whereas B is an immediate intervention like the Sugababes shutdown. I will say that of the dozen or so festivals I have worked Glastonbury is uniquely difficult to police because of the site layout and size. Leeds/Reading is easy as you have two big open air arenas and two tents with plenty of wide open space between and exits from every side of the stage; Glastonbury is anywhere up to 20 stages of all sizes and some of the passages between them are pretty narrow for the size of the crowd movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 Ahem : 'The promoter who helped transform the Glastonbury Festival from a hippy hangout into a world-famous music event, has decided to "part company" from its organisers. Melvin Benn's involvement with the Somerset event dates back to the 1980s and his firm, Festival Republic, has been responsible for licensing and operational control since 2001. A joint statement by founder Michael Eavis and the firm said the time was "right for both parties to go their separate ways". It said Mr Eavis and his staff would "pick up the reins" and Festival Republic would get "time to focus" on their business, which promotes music events throughout Europe. Last updated Wed 27 Jun 2012' 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 hour ago, taunton-hobbit said: Ahem : 'The promoter who helped transform the Glastonbury Festival from a hippy hangout into a world-famous music event, has decided to "part company" from its organisers. Melvin Benn's involvement with the Somerset event dates back to the 1980s and his firm, Festival Republic, has been responsible for licensing and operational control since 2001. A joint statement by founder Michael Eavis and the firm said the time was "right for both parties to go their separate ways". It said Mr Eavis and his staff would "pick up the reins" and Festival Republic would get "time to focus" on their business, which promotes music events throughout Europe. Last updated Wed 27 Jun 2012' 😎 Melvin has been back as a director for Glastonbury Events since 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumOne Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) The Streets, Sleaford Mods, and Orbital (who have s song featuring Sleaford Mods) all on at the same time doesn't seem the best planning. Sleaford Mods Jason Williamson had a bit of a rant and swear about it on stage....but I imagine he has a bit of a rant and swear about his cup of tea each morning. Edited July 2 by SumOne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Riva Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Really enjoyed PJ Harvey, LCD Soundsystem and Little Simz. I watched Dua Lipa, in the hope that at some point she’d utter the immortal words, “Please welcome my special guest… Frank Sidebottom!” Devastated… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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