knirirr Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Does anyone know of a UK supplier who can provide hanks of black bow hair for bass bows? A local luthier will rehair bows for me but can't get the right sort of hair. I suspect the postage/tax on https://uptonbass.com/shop/bass-bow-hair-hank-black-for-1-bow-rehair/ would render such a purchase too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Maybe try a different bow maker? I've used Marc Soubeyran previously and Andrew McGill is doing a bow for me at the moment. I should think if Andrew can't get it no-one can! NB: my spare bow has white hair ...and it's ok. Some people say it doesn't have the same grip but I can't really tell the difference once the Rosin's on. Also I note that the more expensive arcus bows (S6 to S8) have white hair...it's only the "cheap" ones ( ie my arcus S3) that have black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knirirr Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 7 hours ago, NickA said: Maybe try a different bow maker? I might well have to do that. The reason I was looking at going to the chap who can't get the black hair is that his shop is easy to visit in person; I'm less keen on posting my bow. Having tried black hair I do notice a better feel and tone, with fewer nasty squeaking noises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Decent bow people are like hens teeth. We have no-one local. Marc Soubeyran sends you a stamped and addressed bow tube, insert bow, hand to courier, bow comes back in a few days, you keep the tube for next time. I drove 60 miles to see Andrew McGill; tho he's also happy to do it by post. Strange thing with black bow hair..everyone in my orchestra ( me included ) uses black, but look at a professional orchestra and they're all using white. go figure. On the cello, dark hair is considered low grade beginners stuff ..everyone else wants white stallion bow hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) Touchstone Tonewoods have some bow supplies including hair. I don't know how the prices or quality compare to anyone else, but I noticed it in their catalogue. (edit; though not black, I should have read more carefully!) https://www.touchstonetonewoods.co.uk/bow-hair/c-199.html Edited October 11, 2023 by Beer of the Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Beer of the Bass said: I should have read more carefully Specific to P&H fibreglass bows with "self change" bow hair system. Edited October 11, 2023 by NickA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johncee Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 21:09, knirirr said: The reason I was looking at going to the chap who can't get the black hair is that his shop is easy to visit in person; I'm less keen on posting my bow. Whereabouts in Oxfordshire are you? There are top bow people in Oxford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knirirr Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 I'm in West Oxfordshire, but I work in Oxford. The only place I'm aware of is the violin shop on Banbury Road, but I asked them and they said they didn't deal with basses or bass bows at all. As an aside, it's a nice shop which has been there for years. They sold the violin that I used to play at school for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Andrew McGill is in Banbury. Bass bow expert. He won't be cheap, but will do a perfect job. Casswell strings are also in Banbury and do a rehair service..they will be cheaper. I guess it depends how much your bow is worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbd1960 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I've used Marc Soubeyran for rehairing my viol bows, but I was able to visit him in Ludlow when I lived in Shropshire. I've also used Julian Batey in Shrewsbury for cello bow several times (I realise not convenient for OP). Cello bow rehair jobs seem to vary between about £40 to £80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 "my viol bows" wow! To have one viol bow is quite something; several is impressive. if you're into early music.. wonder if you know how to move on a da gamba ( plus bow) and a baroque cello bow. I have all those looking for new homes. Sorry, topic drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knirirr Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 I shall have to take a trip to Banbury at the weekend, I think! Good luck with the baroque stuff also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 You can ride a coque horse there even 🙂 Caswells shop is a bit industrial estatey, they're mostly mail order, but nice enough if you just roll up. But of a show room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbd1960 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 12 hours ago, NickA said: "my viol bows" wow! To have one viol bow is quite something; several is impressive. if you're into early music.. wonder if you know how to move on a da gamba ( plus bow) and a baroque cello bow. I have all those looking for new homes. Sorry, topic drift. Until recently I had a bass and tenor viola da gamba, but someone was looking for a bass, so I sold it with its bow, so now just the tenor. Selling options usually reduce to advertising through your regional early music forum, the Viola da Gamba Society, or the Early Music Shop. It can help if there is a viol teacher in the area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 22 hours ago, zbd1960 said: the Viola da Gamba Societ Cheers. Really useful links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) Here you go: Edited November 8, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvetkevorkian Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Here you go: Hanks, but no hanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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