Envelope filters

[ped]

7 minutes ago, charlietuna said:

And if you want to play with frequencies, it seems the Intensity and Hi/Lo knob work in conjunction with one another. Meaning as you go from Lo to Hi the Intensity knob Maxed on a lower frequency click equals the Intensity at Minimum on the next higher click. This comes in handy when trying to dial in an optimal Static filter frequency and helped me realize a continuous frequency range rather than 4 separate ones. I didn’t graph this out but that’s what my ear hears. 

 

And compared to some other filters, my Meatball clone can take a lot stronger incoming signal. Don’t be afraid to feed it more volume, you may get more range out of the Sensitivity knob. I rarely have mine maxed. 

Interesting, thanks. Yes my bass signal is quite hot actually but this particular sound is great with super high sensitivity because you get a lively bubbly sound with the resonance right up. Here is my normal setting which matches the mutron:

 

 

[LukeFRC]

4 hours ago, charlietuna said:

If you use static mode and can dial down far enough then a high pass filter can be used to take out the mud. They have dedicated pedals for that so I’m not suggesting to use a Mutron 3 for that BUT it may be able to serve a secondary use in that function. Adding resonance at the cutoff point gets you into part of cab sim territory. I figured this out with the Meatball clone I have. I could use that thing on ANY board even if an envelope filter sound wasn’t required. 

Is that next on my build list?!  or a 00funk 

[Quatschmacher]

5 hours ago, ped said:

On the original turning the gain right down will also reduce the volume to zero

Ah yes, forgot about that. On the big Qtron and microtron amp gain and envelope gain can be separated. 

[charlietuna]

3 hours ago, LukeFRC said:

Is that next on my build list?!  or a 00funk 

I have a 00Funk clone as well and like it a lot. It gets a little juicier than the Meatball and can get wackier. It is also capable of a slower sweep that sounds really good. The PastFX 101, 00Funk and Meatball are the three filters I’m keeping in my arsenal; they seem to cover a lot of ground. 

[charlietuna]

4 hours ago, ped said:

Interesting, thanks. Yes my bass signal is quite hot actually but this particular sound is great with super high sensitivity because you get a lively bubbly sound with the resonance right up. Here is my normal setting which matches the mutron:

 

 

Whoa! You need to put those fuzzes in FRONT of the Meatball! Those Valcos look cool. Do any of them do gated fuzz? That’s when things get really fun. 

[ped]

4 minutes ago, charlietuna said:

Whoa! You need to put those fuzzes in FRONT of the Meatball! Those Valcos look cool. Do any of them do gated fuzz? That’s when things get really fun. 

I don’t really use fuzz with the filter. Sometimes octave but mostly on its own. Yeah the grey one does gated, good fun but again not a sound I use. For more synthy sounds I use the Bassballs, palm muted and low sensitivity it sounds amazing for that. 

[LukeFRC]

17 minutes ago, charlietuna said:

I have a 00Funk clone as well and like it a lot. It gets a little juicier than the Meatball and can get wackier. It is also capable of a slower sweep that sounds really good. The PastFX 101, 00Funk and Meatball are the three filters I’m keeping in my arsenal; they seem to cover a lot of ground. 

Sounds lovely. The mutron build was mainly as I’ve got a C4 and that can do everything fine… but then an analogue octaver blew it out the water, would a analoge filter? 
 

I was so tempted by the pf101 but at 4x the price I figured I could test it on a diy build

Edited August 17, 2024 by LukeFRC

[Quatschmacher]

1 hour ago, LukeFRC said:

Sounds lovely. The mutron build was mainly as I’ve got a C4 and that can do everything fine… but then an analogue octaver blew it out the water, would a analoge filter? 
 

I was so tempted by the pf101 but at 4x the price I figured I could test it on a diy build

While the C4 filters are great, they don’t quite capture the resonance of an analogue filter (Artifakt does though). They also cap at 6kHz (Artifakt is full range).

[lee650]

On 17/08/2024 at 15:27, LukeFRC said:

Is that next on my build list?!  or a 00funk 

I'd be interested in a 00 funk! I bought one once, I was so pleased and the dann thing was knackered out the box, I was gutted and I've not seen one since 😭

[lee650]

On 17/08/2024 at 20:22, Quatschmacher said:

While the C4 filters are great, they don’t quite capture the resonance of an analogue filter (Artifakt does though). They also cap at 6kHz (Artifakt is full range).

I cannot get any filter on the C4 to sound good for me, that's why I ended up buying a spacial Delivery which is fantastic, EBS IQ still my fave though (2nd gen, not the first or the latest)

[LukeFRC]

3 hours ago, lee650 said:

I cannot get any filter on the C4 to sound good for me, that's why I ended up buying a spacial Delivery which is fantastic, EBS IQ still my fave though (2nd gen, not the first or the latest)

This one? 

 

[Japhet]

Having had most of the main protagonists over the years I'm very happy to have recently acquired an Aguilar Filter Twin off of this forum. Had one a few years ago and should never have sold it but something shiny must have caught my eye.

[lee650]

19 hours ago, LukeFRC said:

This one? 

 

That's the puppy! Easy to dial in and very resonant. The 1st version (sans true bypass) doesn't trigger well, and has a tiny volume jump, the latest blue label model just doesn't sound the same, and resonance on full still doesn't give the HI Q sound, although the filter modes are handy.

Edited August 23, 2024 by lee650

[Quatschmacher]

 

[HoorayForAnonyms]

A NPD that I thought might better suited to this thread. A newish builder based in Australia has released a clone of the Chunk Systems 00Funk and Brown Dog and put them in a single enclosure.

 

https://www.thereallygoodpedalco.com.au/products/the-funky-puppy-50-deposit
 

What really sold me on the pedal was the inclusion of an extra foot switch that allows you to toggle between the link feature without having to plug and unplug the cable in the same way that you needed to with the old Chunk System pedals.
 

When both pedals are linked together, it becomes really touch sensitive and dynamic!

 

Sound sample 1

 

Sound sample 2

Really enjoying it paired with an OC2 for deep synthy sounds.

 

 

 

 

[ped]

That's cool. I had the Octavius Squeezer which also combined both pedals but used a fairly user unfriendly digital interface. Sounds great in your clips

[Kev]

On 09/01/2025 at 16:01, ped said:

That's cool. I had the Octavius Squeezer which also combined both pedals but used a fairly user unfriendly digital interface. Sounds great in your clips

Ah you get used to it!  Oddly I quite enjoy it after nearly a year of it  

 

The clone sounds cool!  Is it done with the blessing of Richy Cartwright or just a blatant rip-off?  

 

[HoorayForAnonyms]

6 minutes ago, Kev said:

Ah you get used to it!  Oddly I quite enjoy it after nearly a year of it  

 

The clone sounds cool!  Is it done with the blessing of Richy Cartwright or just a blatant rip-off?  

 

Oooo, I’ve no idea whether any permission was sought.  It’s been quite a few years since Chunk Systems ceased production. I’m just glad someone resurrected and - in my opinion - improved on the original design. It is very cool. 

[Kev]

51 minutes ago, HoorayForAnonyms said:

Oooo, I’ve no idea whether any permission was sought.  It’s been quite a few years since Chunk Systems ceased production. I’m just glad someone resurrected and - in my opinion - improved on the original design. It is very cool. 

A long time since Chunk HQ went silent for sure.  I find it interesting though that he still renews the domain/hosting for the chunk website.   Well over a decade now since Chunk shut down and its still going.

 

I agree, the clone does functionally seem like an improvement over using the two pedals for sure. Be interesting if he ever attempts to build something like the Squeezer!

[Quatschmacher]

On 09/01/2025 at 15:43, HoorayForAnonyms said:

A NPD that I thought might better suited to this thread. A newish builder based in Australia has released a clone of the Chunk Systems 00Funk and Brown Dog and put them in a single enclosure.

 

https://www.thereallygoodpedalco.com.au/products/the-funky-puppy-50-deposit
 

What really sold me on the pedal was the inclusion of an extra foot switch that allows you to toggle between the link feature without having to plug and unplug the cable in the same way that you needed to with the old Chunk System pedals.
 

When both pedals are linked together, it becomes really touch sensitive and dynamic!

 

Sound sample 1

 

Sound sample 2

Really enjoying it paired with an OC2 for deep synthy sounds.

 

 

 

 

Now I definitely want to try this!

[Quatschmacher]

On 09/01/2025 at 15:43, HoorayForAnonyms said:

A NPD that I thought might better suited to this thread. A newish builder based in Australia has released a clone of the Chunk Systems 00Funk and Brown Dog and put them in a single enclosure.

 

https://www.thereallygoodpedalco.com.au/products/the-funky-puppy-50-deposit
 

What really sold me on the pedal was the inclusion of an extra foot switch that allows you to toggle between the link feature without having to plug and unplug the cable in the same way that you needed to with the old Chunk System pedals.
 

When both pedals are linked together, it becomes really touch sensitive and dynamic!

 

Sound sample 1

 

Sound sample 2

Really enjoying it paired with an OC2 for deep synthy sounds.

 

 

 

 

Just listened to the clips. My 7-year girl just said “that sounds disgusting!”🤣

 

Sounds fantastic. 

[HoorayForAnonyms]

20 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

Just listened to the clips. My 7-year girl just said “that sounds disgusting!”🤣

 

Sounds fantastic. 

Haha. My work here is done. 😆

 

The kids these days…

 

The clips do show the more obnoxious side of the pedal. There is a huge range on both circuits and it is capable of more refined and hopefully musical sounds; but where is the fun in that!

 

 

 

 

[Quatschmacher]

24 minutes ago, HoorayForAnonyms said:

Haha. My work here is done. 😆

 

The kids these days…

 

The clips do show the more obnoxious side of the pedal. There is a huge range on both circuits and it is capable of more refined and hopefully musical sounds; but where is the fun in that!

 

 

 

 

Have you tried Artifakt and do you want to?

Edited Saturday at 13:06 by Quatschmacher

[LukeFRC]

16 hours ago, Kev said:

Ah you get used to it!  Oddly I quite enjoy it after nearly a year of it  

 

The clone sounds cool!  Is it done with the blessing of Richy Cartwright or just a blatant rip-off?  

 

Traces of Both pedals have been in the DIY community for years.

Theres no legal way to copyright a circuit unless there’s something that is so original and novel that you can patent it.

Patents aren’t at all common on circuits as simple and derivative as 99% of analogue guitar pedals. 

 

The only way you could make a ‘blatant rip-off’ is a DemonFX style pedal where you copy the copyrightable trade dress. 

By the time a pedal has been out of production for a decade I really don’t see there’s a issue of bringing out a pedal that is a clone or near clone of something and maybe some improvements. 
I have more problems with pedal makers using circuits and passing them off as their own amazing work that’s a game changer in guitar/bass playing … and it’s actually a clone of something and no credit is given to the original designer …

[Kev]

6 hours ago, LukeFRC said:

Traces of Both pedals have been in the DIY community for years.

Theres no legal way to copyright a circuit unless there’s something that is so original and novel that you can patent it.

Patents aren’t at all common on circuits as simple and derivative as 99% of analogue guitar pedals. 

 

The only way you could make a ‘blatant rip-off’ is a DemonFX style pedal where you copy the copyrightable trade dress. 

By the time a pedal has been out of production for a decade I really don’t see there’s a issue of bringing out a pedal that is a clone or near clone of something and maybe some improvements. 
I have more problems with pedal makers using circuits and passing them off as their own amazing work that’s a game changer in guitar/bass playing … and it’s actually a clone of something and no credit is given to the original designer …

 

Oh I only mentioned it as he literally says it's the same circuit, rather than inspired by or developed from etc.  Usually cloners aren't quite so blunt!

 

And that last sentence reminds me of someone...