Franticsmurf Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) I quite liked the video - it had a touch of the humour from early Beatles interviews. Edit: And from the Hard Day's Night movie, too. Edited November 3, 2023 by Franticsmurf Quote
DCS222 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 03/11/2023 at 15:02, Baloney Balderdash said: And I am pretty sure they were thinking a humorous goodbye and thank you, sprinkled with equal measures sentimental nostalgia. Expand True, but sentimental nostalgia isn’t the same these days, somehow weak and lacking to the good old days 1 Quote
tegs07 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) Just sounds like a Beatles song to me. Could have slotted into a later album and no doubt been a slow burner. As others have said the technology is very interesting and it’s got sentimental/nostalgic charm. Now if someone could raid Prince’s vault with this technology there’s probably enough material for a decade of posthumous releases. Edit: Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing I don’t know. Hopefully done with love. Edited November 3, 2023 by tegs07 Quote
Dad3353 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 03/11/2023 at 16:25, tegs07 said: ... Now if someone could raid Prince’s vault with this technology there’s probably enough material for a decade of posthumous releases... Expand I would guess the Prince' demos to be multi-track already, and so not need this separation treatment. I could be wrong. Quote
MacDaddy Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 Sounds like an Oasis rip-off to me... 1 3 Quote
tegs07 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) On 03/11/2023 at 16:31, Dad3353 said: I would guess the Prince' demos to be multi-track already, and so not need this separation treatment. I could be wrong. Expand Allegedly he was so prolific and slightly divorced from reality that he had hundreds of hours of work some full budget and ready for release down right through to very early home recordings. Strange fellow according to some: Edited November 3, 2023 by tegs07 2 Quote
taunton-hobbit Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 That's entertainment ................ 😎 Quote
Huge Hands Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 As a big Beatles fan, I thought the song was good, but I do struggle with that Jeff Lynne production sound they keep on with that makes this and Free As A Bird sound like a Travelling Wilbury's record. I think it's the "big wet fish on plastic oil drum" drum sound he seems to love. Maybe they used Bev Bevan kit samples, but I don't like it. Only my opinion, of course..... Quote
DCS222 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 03/11/2023 at 17:05, Huge Hands said: think it's the "big wet fish on plastic oil drum" drum sound he seems to love. Expand 🤣🤣🤣 Quote
moley6knipe Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 03/11/2023 at 17:05, Huge Hands said: As a big Beatles fan, I thought the song was good, but I do struggle with that Jeff Lynne production sound they keep on with that makes this and Free As A Bird sound like a Travelling Wilbury's record. I think it's the "big wet fish on plastic oil drum" drum sound he seems to love. Maybe they used Bev Bevan kit samples, but I don't like it. Only my opinion, of course..... Expand 100% agree! And what a fantastic description of one of the single most loathsome sounds in recorded history! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Quote
Greg Edwards69 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 I don’t minds the song. But it obviously wasn’t good enough to work on past the demo stage when John was alive and the band was together. not keen on the video. Bits of it look like a Stevie Riks spoof. 1 Quote
theplumber Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 03/11/2023 at 19:10, Greg Edwards69 said: I don’t minds the song. But it obviously wasn’t good enough to work on past the demo stage when John was alive and the band was together. not keen on the video. Bits of it look like a Stevie Riks spoof. Expand That's what me and the wife said at the same time! Stevie Riks!!! Quote
Cosmo Valdemar Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 03/11/2023 at 19:10, Greg Edwards69 said: I don’t minds the song. But it obviously wasn’t good enough to work on past the demo stage when John was alive and the band was together. Expand John didn't record the demo until long after the Beatles had split up, and the others didn't hear it until long after he'd died. 1 Quote
miles'tone Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 On 03/11/2023 at 14:00, PaulWarning said: here's the vid Expand Oh you cynical old lot! It is what it is in the time that it is. A worthy job done well. I think it's great because I accept it by not expecting anything from it. Besides, nothing's gonna change my world... 2 Quote
12stringbassist Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 The video is tremendous. The song on its own doesn't jump out as being a single (for me). If they were still a functioning band and had more songs, that probably wouldn't have been one they'd have chosen. It's a bit 'filler' but I am happy that they have done such a good job of rescuing it. Quote
SteveK Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 Now that I've calmed down from my initial excitement at hearing a new Beatles song I feel I can be more objective. I don't mind admitting that I had tears in my eyes when listening to it. I don't know if it was purely nostalgia, or if it was hearing a man whose music changed my life and whose own life was so cruelly and pointlessly cut short. Back to the record... It's quite nice - certainly not anywhere near the quality of the fabs in the 60s. I don't know how much Paul and Ringo changed/edited what was on the demo cassette, but It would have benefitted from the honing that The Beatles and George Martin would have subjected it to in the day. It quite probably wouldn't have made it onto an album. Another criticism I have, is the production/mix: to my (admittedly tired and abused) ears, it sounds very dull. The lovely, very George/Beatles, guitar lick leading to the "Now and then, I miss you" section really should have been brought forward. It all just sounds very awash with dull strings and voices. All that aside, I think it was certainly worthy of release as a piece of musical history, and I absolutely don't think it tarnishes their unique legacy. 4 Quote
EssentialTension Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 I felt it wasn't as poor and indeed was much better than I feared. I enjoyed it more when hearing it with the video. It might not have made the cut for any actual Beatles LP ... except the Anthology, perhaps its true home ... but for the completist it was surely necessary. I guess the technology used here and on Peter Jackson's Get Back film, will be digging up many other goodies from way beyond The Beatles catalogue. Quote
Lord Sausage Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) I imagine they will go back and de-mix then remix all the early stuff that was recorded in 2 track and mono like they have done with revolver! Edited November 4, 2023 by Lord Sausage Quote
dand666 Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 As a massive Beatles fan, this to me is just a gimmick. I'm gonna go stick The White Album on... 2 Quote
SteveK Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 On 04/11/2023 at 15:42, dand666 said: As a massive Beatles fan, this to me is just a gimmick. I'm gonna go stick The White Album on... Expand Exactly what I'm listening to right now🤘 Quote
tauzero Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 Would the Beatles have got back together years after splitting up just to record this? Quote
StingRayBoy42 Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 It's a bit hard to judge it on its own merits, as a 'new' Beatles song is such a big deal. No, it's probably not as good as the best things they ever did, and yes the production is a bit syrupy, and No, George didn't like it, but for me, a 1978 song by John Lennon that was on a tape labelled 'For Paul' that contains the lyrics 'If I make it through, it's all because of you' with Paul, George and Ringo playing on it is a really beautiful thing to hear. A nice postscript I think. 2 Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) On 03/11/2023 at 02:20, Bassassin said: There's a short & not particularly in-depth 'making of' thing about the song here: Seems it's McCartney playing the slide guitar. Expand I think John had a terrible handwriting, looks like it says "new + Men". Just how would we know that weren't in fact the intended title of the song? Makes you wonder if it even actually said "to Paul". As such I can't take this serious. Edited November 4, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote
Cosmo Valdemar Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 On 04/11/2023 at 16:09, tauzero said: Would the Beatles have got back together years after splitting up just to record this? Expand Probably not as two of them are dead. Quote
Baloney Balderdash Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 On 04/11/2023 at 16:09, tauzero said: Would the Beatles have got back together years after splitting up just to record this? Expand On 04/11/2023 at 17:59, Cosmo Valdemar said: Probably not as two of them are dead. Expand Yet that is kind of exactly what they did. Quote
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