WishIcouldplay Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Lovely old Bass. Interesting price? https://www.andybaxterbass.com/collections/bass-guitars/products/1960-fender-stack-knob-jazz-bass-sunburst 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I'm guessing to the person who wants that it might be a price worth paying given its supposed rarity, but for those of us in the real world that really is an eye-watering price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishIcouldplay Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 There used to be a member on here that sold some really nice old Basses. I think his name was Simon? His Bass chat user name was a number? Anyone know if his is still active on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Do you think there will come a time when interest in old instruments will decrease, and the value these “investments” will plummet? What is the allure? Or is it just that age genuinely makes it play and sound better? Someone will probably pay the £26k asking, and it will go in a special display case or climate controlled cupboard. It ain’t getting played again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lw. Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Nice looking and sounding bass! I wouldn't worry too much about the price: a) That's not how much it will sell for b) Yes there is a rarity - there can't be that many of them left & we must lose one or two a year to fire/floods/car crashes/being stolen & dumped etc... c) You have to learn to disassociate cost & quality once you get past the threshold of £800-1000. Everything above that price is purely people treating themselves to something they deem as being a treat. If 26k isn't within your price range there's no point worrying because you can buy a perfectly usable bass from a musical perspective for vastly less so you're not missing out. For some people it will be within range and they'll probably buy it for noodling around at home. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Vintage kit or kit with provenance is a weird area for me (and possibly a lot of people), this bass being point of fact. Perhaps it's about bragging rights, but at £27K, it's not going to make you play any better and tonally (subjective) I'd say with some confidence that a Harley Benton that came off the production line yesterday wouldn't sound that much different, either. It's probably OK if you're Sting or something, where you have people to watch your gear 24/7, but can you imagine the loss risk of taking it out for a gig at the Rose & Crown on a Friday night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Edge Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 The neck and headstock are surprisingly clean for an instrument that old. My ‘72 model is significantly more mellow. The damage on the back of the body says it’s been played a fair bit though. It’s still a lot of money for something that was thrown together in a draughty shed by un skilled labour. Bit like old British Leyland cars from the 70’s so beloved of hard up classic car buffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick's Fine '52 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 30/11/2023 at 10:18, NancyJohnson said: Vintage kit or kit with provenance is a weird area for me (and possibly a lot of people), this bass being point of fact. Perhaps it's about bragging rights, but at £27K, it's not going to make you play any better and tonally (subjective) I'd say with some confidence that a Harley Benton that came off the production line yesterday wouldn't sound that much different, either. It's probably OK if you're Sting or something, where you have people to watch your gear 24/7, but can you imagine the loss risk of taking it out for a gig at the Rose & Crown on a Friday night? Rare, desirable things are always sought after. Whether it’s cars, art or anything else. Instruments are no different. These are very special, have unique features, are very scarce, and seldom available. Any item hitting those qualities will be in demand. Does a Ferrari 250 make you a better driver by spending £45m? Is it worth £45m? Is a Picasso worth £300m, when you can frame a print for £200? All these items increase in value every year far more than inflation, or normal investment, including the Jazz bass. Sure it’s not for everyone, but fair play to the chap or chapess who gets to enjoy this one. Good for them. I’d love it!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney72a Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Some lovely instruments on Andy Baxter's page at the moment. Comparing prices to some of the reputable dealers in the States, this one for example: https://www.garysguitars.com/vintage-bass-guitars Their 1961 stacker is priced at $36K, as is a 1963 Fiesta Red Precision. Edited December 2, 2023 by rodney72a 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longwheelbass Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Grossly overpriced, especially considering Leo let the work-experience kid spray that one up. That black band is as wide as the M5 outside of Bristol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misdee Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) If people want vintage basses good luck to 'em, but I really do think that there is more than a little of The Emperor's New Clothes in the assumption that older is better when it comes to Fender basses in particular. Back in the Seventies when new Fender instruments were increasingly patchy in terms of quality control I can understand folks gravitating towards older basses. Nowadays, however, a new USA Fender sounds and plays great. If you want a Fender-sounding tool for a bass playing job it will do you proud. Whatever you are getting for your 26k with this bass, only a relatively small proportion of that sum is for the actual instrument. The lions share is for romantic associations. Edited December 4, 2023 by Misdee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 The price of romance..... Or spend a ton on a Harley Benton😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misdee Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) There are folks who can hear the difference between a stack knob Jazz control configuration and a regular v/v/t setup. I'm not one of them! Don't get me wrong, vintage Fenders are lovely things, but not that practical nowadays, if you see what I mean. And do you really want a bass that is fairly fragile, relatively irreplaceable and cost £26000? To me It would be more of a burden than anything else. Edited December 4, 2023 by Misdee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, Misdee said: Don't get me wrong, vintage Fenders are lovely things, but not that practical nowadays, if you see what I mean. 2 hours ago, iconic said: Or spend a ton on a Harley Benton😉 I have a bass (Fender Japan Aerodyne) I love it, and it would cost £1000 new if you could buy a 2003 spec one now. However, I have a Peavey Milestone P Bass (£50 S/H) and a Marcus Miller M2 that have both done countless gigs. Why would I buy a 60s bass that cost £30k plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns-bass Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, Chienmortbb said: I have a bass (Fender Japan Aerodyne) I love it, and it would cost £1000 new if you could buy a 2003 spec one now. However, I have a Peavey Milestone P Bass (£50 S/H) and a Marcus Miller M2 that have both done countless gigs. Why would I buy a 60s bass that cost £30k plus. I have a custom colour 60s jazz bass and I haven’t played it in a year or more. But sad really, but I can’t sell it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I’d rather have a new car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 On 04/12/2023 at 21:01, Burns-bass said: I have a custom colour 60s jazz bass and I haven’t played it in a year or more. But sad really, but I can’t sell it. Same. But make that 15 years or more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnybass Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I think it looks great, I don’t have £27k to spend on a bass, if I did would I buy it? Maybe if it played and sounded great. All power to whoever buys it. Hope they get loads of enjoyment out of it. jonny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 04/12/2023 at 10:47, Turbineclimber said: Grossly overpriced, especially considering Leo let the work-experience kid spray that one up. That black band is as wide as the M5 outside of Bristol. Those early stacks had that black overspray. And I've seen one or two that had the red almost faded away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I remember when Guy Pratt and John Illsley (from Dire Straits) were discussing their vintage Fenders, on Rockonteurs, and how ridiculous the prices had escalated to these days. They agreed that no musician would ever spend so much on an instrument and most of them end up with bankers, or Russian gangsters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, NikNik said: Those early stacks had that black overspray. And I've seen one or two that had the red almost faded away. Agree the red was sprayed last, over some of the black so it does look artificially wide when red fades @Turbineclimber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 49 minutes ago, NikNik said: Those early stacks had that black overspray. And I've seen one or two that had the red almost faded away. Agree the red was sprayed last, over some of the black so it does look artificially wide when red fades @Turbineclimber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I get the same feeling with old basses that I do when touching old furniture. The weight of history and the lightness of touch by all the humans that have owned it. doesn’t mean that chest of drawers is innately better made than one from furnitureland or more sturdy somehow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 58 minutes ago, NikNik said: Those early stacks had that black overspray. And I've seen one or two that had the red almost faded away. Definite red-fade - Black doubtless looked normal when first done and for years after 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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