Rayman Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 So as the head is 500W, is it likely to damage a 350 rated cab? According to reviews, what TC claim is 500 is probably more like 400 in reality with this unit. It’s all mumbo jumbo to me to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rayman said: So as the head is 500W, is it likely to damage a 350 rated cab? According to reviews, what TC claim is 500 is probably more like 400 in reality with this unit. It’s all mumbo jumbo to me to be honest It is more unlikely than it is likely... in fact you'd have to be a dingbat to blow it up without noticing it farting and warning you. I'd go so far as to say that it is almost impossible to destroy a 350w (RMS) cab with a TC500 watt amp unless you are really trying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybone Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Ashdown teased a picture of a new OriginAl head (in black), so not sure what's happening there... more power? The OriginAl 300w combo 1x12 is 13kg, and the 2x10 is 14.5kg, the RM C210T 500 is 20kg, so maybe a bit heavy. IIRC, the Rumble 500 was something like 15kg. I keep looking at lighter combo's, but they do tend to be a tad expensive at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 I’ve had combos since the 80s. So all this watts and ohms shizzle is new to me, all I ever thought about was how loud it was. Big and loud was always the requirement. To be honest I’ve always been sceptical about tiny amps and speakers. It’s illogical to me…. everything has always been big and heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Rayman said: Me neither….. hopefully it’ll work. It wasn’t expensive at all, but then this is a cheap temporary set up. Me for three. Could be a guitar cab, which would make for severe disappointment when cranked. "Hopefully it will work" suggests you haven't actually demo'd it yet. Model number / name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 The current owner is a bass player, and has been using it as such…. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225915593444?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=5905WYyDTje&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=dWKZrj9xQ8u&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Rayman said: The current owner is a bass player, and has been using it as such…. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225915593444?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=5905WYyDTje&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=dWKZrj9xQ8u&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Mystery solved... it is a 2x10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Adjustable tweeter screams bass cab to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Decent bass cabs it a 'bit' limiting being 4 ohm 2x10. That cab is actually 175 watts (RMS is the important bit) but it'll still cope with your amp so long as you don't go boosting the lows too much. We've no idea of the situations you'll use it in but many folk manage with these no probs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japhet Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Rayman said: So as the head is 500W, is it likely to damage a 350 rated cab? According to reviews, what TC claim is 500 is probably more like 400 in reality with this unit. It’s all mumbo jumbo to me to be honest I'd look out for a MicroThumpinator pedal if you're going to run it hard. It's a High Pass filter which cuts out very low frequencies, which apart from being inaudible to human ears, also suck power in order to generate said frequencies. This puts the drivers in your cab under a lot of unnecessary pressure which can cause them to flap and overheat with no audible benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJ Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Keep an eye out for one of the Ashdown Neo combos they made a few years ago. I snaffled one last year and I love it. 400W into the built-in 8 ohm 1x15 speaker (so probably 200W) but loud enough for my Country/Americana band, then I pair it with a matching Neo series 8 ohm 1x15 to get the ohms down to 4 ohms and the full 400W into both cabs - loud enough for my Southern Rock band. Both the combo and the cab are an easy one-hand lift 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, warwickhunt said: Mystery solved... it is a 2x10. I said 12 didn’t I ? 🤦🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rayman said: I said 12 didn’t I ? 🤦🏻♂️ Yes you said it was a 2 x 12 (two 12" speakers) but it is actually 2 x 10 (two 10" speakers). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Rayman said: I said 12 didn’t I ? 🤦🏻♂️ Yup. 2 of. Your average TC amp has a pile of compression and low end filtering as a rule. This means it doesn't put a lot of power into the lows that break drivers with farty sounds. Instead you will be at risk of cooking them with midrange shouty sounds. The rule is to turn up and up until you don't hear it get any louder. Assuming you didn't already get to the fart threshold you have found the heat threshold. It's a good idea to turn back down a little from there to leave room for digging in extra hard in all the excitement of the show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, warwickhunt said: Yes you said it was a 2 x 12 (two 12" speakers) but it is actually 2 x 10 (two 10" speakers). I’m an idiot I was looking at 2 1x12 cabs… probably where the confusion was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Personally I would avoid that cab as it will be under rated and sound terrible if pushed to be heard. There are many better cabs out there, this isn’t one of them in my opinion. As it’s a 4ohm cab you can’t add a second cab either so potentially a waste of your money. I would seek out one of the low cost Laney or Ashdown cabs in 8ohm format rated to 300w per cab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, BassAdder60 said: Personally I would avoid that cab as it will be under rated and sound terrible if pushed to be heard. There are many better cabs out there, this isn’t one of them in my opinion. As it’s a 4ohm cab you can’t add a second cab either so potentially a waste of your money. I would seek out one of the low cost Laney or Ashdown cabs in 8ohm format rated to 300w per cab Yeah agreed, I’m pulling out of the sale. I’ve been messaging the seller since this morning with no response, asking exactly what it is. I should have asked before bidding I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Rayman said: Yeah agreed, I’m pulling out of the sale. I’ve been messaging the seller since this morning with no response, asking exactly what it is. I should have asked before bidding I guess. Good plan .. if you made an eBay bid you can retract it ( EBay website not the App ) You made the right decision 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 I went with this for now….. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 Again…. this is a temporary rig, until I get the time and money to get what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Nice cab! Heavy but sound lush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Great cab .. much better choice, well done 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Yep, good call, Eden cabs are very nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDaBass Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Great Cab, well built, well designed and handles low end very well. As said they are quite heavy, but worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusco Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 On 19/12/2023 at 11:55, Rayman said: So embarrassingly, after 40yrs of using combos, I have a question. Proof that you're never too old to learn... I just can't keep lugging my Ashdown ABM combo around anymore. We live in an upstairs flat, and it's getting impossible to hump it up and down the stairs. So I'm looking to move to separates, a lightweight head and 1 or 2 cabs instead. How does the Ohm thing work? Can I use a 500W rated head with a 300W cab? Thanks for your assistance Sounds like the well loved Markbass CMP121 combo + NY121 cab would be a perfect size/weight/volume/flexibility fit.... it's not very Ashdown-y though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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