nilorius Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Hi. Currently i have 4 pedals in my pedal board- 2 Boss pedals - BC-1X compressor and CEB-3 chorus. Both automatically switches on when the pedal board is connected to electricity. For compressor it is ok because use it all the time, but chorus? Why? Is this for all Boss pedals? Is it possible to be changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Is there a lead in the input jack when you connect to the power source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Supernaut said: Is there a lead in the input jack when you connect to the power source? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 The input jack engaged will turn on the pedal. With no input jack, it will not turn on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Edwards69 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) I really don't understand why Boss designs their pedals like this. I had a V-Wah pedal that did the same thing - every time I powered it up the wah was engaged. I stopped using it when I had power problems on one gig. They ought to include a dip switch inside so you can decide whether the effect is engaged or not when power is applied, or at least remember its last used state. Edited December 20, 2023 by Greg Edwards69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 33 minutes ago, Supernaut said: The input jack engaged will turn on the pedal. With no input jack, it will not turn on. Well - always left it pulled out before is even more evil than switching it off by leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I think you mean to say it is engaged as soon as power is turned on. That is strange to me as most pedals have a latching on off stomp to engage and disengage the effect. I guess yours is a momentary electronic switch and the unit defaults as engaged when powered up. Did you RTFM? Maybe there's an internal toggle for it to default the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Downunderwonder said: I think you mean to say it is engaged as soon as power is turned on. That is strange to me as most pedals have a latching on off stomp to engage and disengage the effect. I guess yours is a momentary electronic switch and the unit defaults as engaged when powered up. Did you RTFM? Maybe there's an internal toggle for it to default the other way. RTFM? Strange, but it only happens with Boss pedals. Other brand pedals stay calm. Edited December 21, 2023 by nilorius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Read The Forgetten Manual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 My Sadowsky pre amp and MXR comp power up to on (possibly remembering the last switch position as these are always on), whilst my Tech21 VTDI, EBS pedals (chorus & octave) and tuner default to off. Not really an issue, I know how they act through use and the LED is always there for confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Edwards69 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I've just checked the manuals for these two pedals. The BC-1X manual states that the effect is always engaged when powered on: The CEB-3 manual has no such statement, however, and neither manual suggests a way to change it - there's no hidden dip switches, for example. Based upon the BC-1X behaviour and my previous experience with my old V-Wah, I suspect this the default behaviour of many Boss pedals, annoying as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirBass Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I’m sure I read somewhere that the analogue Boss pedals are always off when powered up and the digital ones are always on when powered up. I could however have miss remembered that? I’ve definitely started a few gigs with my octave pedal on which has lead to some funny looks from the rest of the band! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 It's normal for Boss Pedals. No - you cannot change it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted December 22, 2023 Author Share Posted December 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, fretmeister said: It's normal for Boss Pedals. No - you cannot change it. Thank Youuuuuu!🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tauzero Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 That's a handy mod. I imagine you could find which of the two 100k resistors to change by connecting a larger resistor (eg 1M) in parallel with each resistor in turn (reducing its value to below 100k), and when it worked as required, change the other resistor. And as resistor tolerance is probably 5% at least, I'd use a 120k to make sure it was out of the range of possible overlaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 The SY200 pedal does this - not one you want on automatically! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelDean Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Woodinblack said: The SY200 pedal does this - not one you want on automatically! I once had my B3n come on with a synthy patch when I turned it on at a sound check. It took far too long to realise what had happened. The screen didn't look different enough to prompt me to check it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I don't understand why it's an issue? Unless you arrive at a gig with just enough time to plug in your board before the first note is played? Plug in the effects board, some effects light up and are engaged straight away, some don't, turn off the ones you don't want. For me the ones that don't automatically turn on I have to give a little check to make sure they do so I know that no leads have slipped out in storage or transport. Really failing to see a problem with this whether they're automatically on or off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 22/12/2023 at 13:33, Woodinblack said: The SY200 pedal does this - not one you want on automatically! No but I don’t really see the issue as you don’t turn up plug in the power and immediately start playing your set, very simple to turn things off or on? I’ve seen people get annoyed the other way at things not just turning on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, 0175westwood29 said: No but I don’t really see the issue as you don’t turn up plug in the power and immediately start playing your set, very simple to turn things off or on? I’ve seen people get annoyed the other way at things not just turning on I would be happy for it to just start off - it has a LCD display and lights to show it is actually on, so I know the device is functional, I don't want it to have the effect on at startup - A synth pedal is almost never going to be an always on effect. I think it being on at startup is a defect, made worse by the fact it has a settings menu where having a flag for 'start on' would be a simple preference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 20/12/2023 at 13:20, nilorius said: Hi. Currently i have 4 pedals in my pedal board- 2 Boss pedals - BC-1X compressor and CEB-3 chorus. Both automatically switches on when the pedal board is connected to electricity. For compressor it is ok because use it all the time, but chorus? Why? Is this for all Boss pedals? Is it possible to be changed? This isn't unique to Boss pedals, my tuner, compressor and preamp turn on when the electricity goes on, but other pedals don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 In an ideal world, for a digital pedal, i would want it to turn on in the same state it turned off. For other pedals, I would expect it to depend on how likely it was to be an always on effect - graphic EQ, yes, Filter pedal, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 49 minutes ago, asingardenof said: This isn't unique to Boss pedals, my tuner, compressor and preamp turn on when the electricity goes on, but other pedals don't. Tuner, comp and preamp auto on could be ok, but Boss has a lot of other pedals, like chorus or syb-5 which i don't like auto on. Other brands stay calm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Look at it this way. Plug it in. It's on and you know it it's working and the settings haven't been moved. One LESS thing to check = bonus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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