neepheid Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 22 minutes ago, bloke_zero said: I had to look it up: https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/differences-between-hard-maple-and-soft-maple/ - seems like its probably denser than basswood "Even though it is referred to as soft maple, it is only soft in relation to hard maple." Even the "softest" maple has a Janka hardness approaching twice that of basswood. Reckon it'll be fine. No dings on my basswood bodied, frequently gigged Wunkay though. Am I basswooding wrong? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ.c Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 39 minutes ago, bloke_zero said: I had to look it up: https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/differences-between-hard-maple-and-soft-maple/ - seems like its probably denser than basswood Thank you. I read that then looked up some other woods. Surprisingly mahogany is in the same janka hardness ballpark as soft maple, and also possibly the Carolina pine body on my Warwick Rock bass, which I've not managed to dent yet. So around the 800 to 900 range. Basswood by comparison is around 400. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 17 hours ago, russ.c said: I'm interested in the new affordable Joe Dart bass. Anyone know what soft maple is like as a body wood? Will it ding up like basswood? https://sterlingbymusicman.com/products/joe-dart?variant=41532195831923 "Soft" is a misnomer, it's still pretty hard, and from what I remember of my old Squier VM70s Jazz it's heavy AF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 Anyone ordered one? I'm tempted but this year I have 18th and 21st Birthdays for my kids and my mum's 80th etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Edwards69 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 18 hours ago, fretmeister said: + shipping + vat + duty. About £520 total. 17 hours ago, Killerfridge said: Yeah not quite as much of a bargain as I first thought. Still, I think probably a fair price given the name attached That's what I thought too. I'm not even looking for a new bass, well, not one like this. But it does seem like a cracking bass for the money until you add shipping etc on to the price tag. Still tempted though. It's not ludicrous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassApprentice Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I get a feeling if I was take a punt and hate it - I could move it fairly easily as they'll be A) Joe Dart fans who missed out and really want one. B) People who are just generally nosey but not enough of a fan boi to buy it first time round. Yes, I'm trying to talk myself into buying one 😂 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 hours ago, russ.c said: Thank you. I read that then looked up some other woods. Surprisingly mahogany is in the same janka hardness ballpark as soft maple, and also possibly the Carolina pine body on my Warwick Rock bass, which I've not managed to dent yet. So around the 800 to 900 range. Basswood by comparison is around 400. My MW Mustang is basswood and hasn't picked up a ding in 8 years of gigging; I think some of it is down to the poly coat though which is like a tank. Aren't Ric 4003's soft maple - with the thin lacquer mine used to ding if you breathed on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyJ Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 12 minutes ago, martthebass said: Aren't Ric 4003's soft maple - with the thin lacquer mine used to ding if you breathed on it? Rics have a very weird two-component finish which is somewhat soft and doesn't expand and shrink fast enough to keep up with the wood - so it will crack very easily. I bought a brand new 4003 in 2009 from Guitarguitar and had it shipped to me in the Netherlands, and despite waiting for HOURS before unpacking it, it had lots of hairline cracks in the cutaways which were very noticeable in the Mapleglo finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 17 minutes ago, LeftyJ said: Rics have a very weird two-component finish which is somewhat soft and doesn't expand and shrink fast enough to keep up with the wood - so it will crack very easily. I bought a brand new 4003 in 2009 from Guitarguitar and had it shipped to me in the Netherlands, and despite waiting for HOURS before unpacking it, it had lots of hairline cracks in the cutaways which were very noticeable in the Mapleglo finish. Mine was a 2010 in midnight blue. I was one of the lucky ones where the finish didn't fall off in strips. Ric would never admit to those affected that they screwed up on occasion on the UV cat finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonerjoe Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Just had a rush of blood to the head and ordered a Joe Dart SBMM. I play punk, not funk. What am I doing? The most sudden urge of GAS in my life. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy123 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I just closed my eyes and hit order when the shipping cost came up, I'm sure if there is a full production model it will be more expensive, plus it comes stock with £50 flats! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Edwards69 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 17 hours ago, goonerjoe said: Just had a rush of blood to the head and ordered a Joe Dart SBMM. I play punk, not funk. What am I doing? The most sudden urge of GAS in my life. 16 hours ago, Jonesy123 said: I just closed my eyes and hit order when the shipping cost came up, I'm sure if there is a full production model it will be more expensive, plus it comes stock with £50 flats! I'm still tempted. It isn't ludicrously expensive, even with shipping. I just don't need one. But it's a clever sales tactic, with a limited pre-order time. FOMO and all that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 dang, yo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassApprentice Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 It is SO close to being worth it. But I just don't need it. I know I'll regret this at some point but I'm sure they'll pop up 2nd hand. Have to hand it to them, selling over 4,000 of these in a moths is really impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 15 minutes ago, lidl e said: dang, yo... Is that + VAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, warwickhunt said: Is that + VAT? I dont think so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I could be wrong (often am) but as it doesn't mention VAT I'm fairly sure that UK residents have to pay the VAT on top of that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Only 15 hours left to order one, for this run at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted May 31 Author Share Posted May 31 17 minutes ago, warwickhunt said: I could be wrong (often am) but as it doesn't mention VAT I'm fairly sure that UK residents have to pay the VAT on top of that price. The left side of the page says duties and tax included: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 I was going to buy one yesterday Then I watched the rugby and got drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Right, is that this FOMO charade over for now then? Gotta hand it to them, well played EBMM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ.c Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 I'm wondering what their factory floor is going to look like manufacturing that many basses. All those fret leveling jobs for starters. Someone is gonna be sweating. I know I would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) EBMM don’t make the Sterling by Musicman instruments - it’s a completely different company and the SBMM instruments are made in the far East - that’s why the price is that much lower than an EBMM, California built instrument - those are on a par with (but actually cheaper than) Fender Custom Shop (team built) instruments 😉 Edited June 1 by drTStingray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 22 minutes ago, drTStingray said: EBMM don’t make the Sterling by Musicman instruments - it’s a completely different company and the SBMM instruments are made in the far East - that’s why the price is that much lower than an EBMM, California built instrument - those are on a par with (but actually cheaper than) Fender Custom Shop (team built) instruments 😉 I am aware. But I do not believe that SBMM would autonomously go ahead and do this without EBMM telling them to do so, hence my props going to EBMM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 21 hours ago, neepheid said: I am aware. But I do not believe that SBMM would autonomously go ahead and do this without EBMM telling them to do so, hence my props going to EBMM. Indeed and I’m sure you’re right. However some people, from their posts, seem to think it’s the same company!! Linked but not the same 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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