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[quote name='phsycoandy' post='487307' date='May 13 2009, 09:32 PM']???????? sorry did i miss something[/quote]

Given the availability and quality of this stunning c/s fender jazz bass. Now im not going to get into any exchanges over the price, and yes i piad £1000 for it on a fast sale, so i got a good buy. ;-) but this is worth every penney of £1600.(IMO) Any comments that have nothing to do with the sale, please PM them.

Thanks,

Rich.

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[quote name='bubinga5' post='487319' date='May 13 2009, 09:44 PM']Rich you have a text![/quote]


Ha ha yes i did thank you, will email pics tomorrow, thats the 2nd sadowsky i have been offered in ten mins! i will say the same, would be looking for a cash adjustment, but to be honest would like a nice overwater or something like that. I will try and check out a sadowsky local if possible though.

Thanks Rich.

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[quote name='greyparrot' post='487330' date='May 13 2009, 09:50 PM']'thats the 2nd sadowsky i have been offered in ten mins!'[/quote]

'If' you get offered a 4 string Sadowsky that you need to move on (heaven forbid :) ) then I am in the market for one! :rolleyes:

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[quote name='warwickhunt' post='487349' date='May 13 2009, 10:04 PM']'If' you get offered a 4 string Sadowsky that you need to move on (heaven forbid :) ) then I am in the market for one! :rolleyes:[/quote]


Ha ha ello mate! i have never played a sadaowssky, so have no idea what they are like! hope you find your one though!

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.... some photos here (the one on the right - natural ash / maple?) :-

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42855&hl=custom+1970"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...;hl=custom+1970[/url]

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I never post stuff like this...... sorry but....

3 people passed this instrument on for about a Grand - I've owned it twice and was the original buyer at £2100 !!

I think it's pretty shocking you trying to flip this for £600 profit on this forum, (IMO) if you want to make a profit on it put it on Ebay and show some respect for people who use this forum as a way of trading with some integrity among friends

sorry just my opinion mate,

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[quote name='Marcus' post='488203' date='May 14 2009, 07:36 PM']I never post stuff like this...... sorry but....

3 people passed this instrument on for about a Grand - I've owned it twice and was the original buyer at £2100 !!

I think it's pretty shocking you trying to flip this for £600 profit on this forum, (IMO) if you want to make a profit on it put it on Ebay and show some respect for people who use this forum as a way of trading with some integrity among friends

sorry just my opinion mate,[/quote]

I'd have to agree with Marcus...not that it makes either of us right.

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[quote name='dangee' post='488235' date='May 14 2009, 08:36 PM']I'd have to agree with Marcus...not that it makes either of us right.[/quote]

Yup, I don't usually pass comment either but when I've bought stuff off BC If I want to flip I'm happy to do it at 'cost'. If I wanted to 'profit' as we say in Rotherham 'I wouldn't sh1t on my own doorstep'

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HI chaps,

This bass is now being [b]withdrawn[/b]. I was working with it today, and it is just the best that i have ever had, and that includes an original 1975 jazz! I have had many basses but this tops them all. At the studio today, it recived 3 comments from others to the sound and looks of it, Today, i talked to a few dealers and they say limited Fender c/s runs of 100 will only go up in value, and they estimate it to be worth around £2000+ at this stage, even though its not a sellers market, and may not sell at this price at this time, i was advised not to sell it, as the future value potential is very strong on any L/E C/S fender guitar. Andys said they have buyers if i wish to sell. Fender specialist dealers also said that the bass will at this stage be worth more than the original price due to 100 only ever made.(bass centre said £2400) I paid £1000 for it, and the seller told me he had many offers that night, just i was first! The price was very very low for such a rare bass, Nope, i will keep this beutiful bass, and enjoy it rather than pass it on again. I did accually buy it with half an intent to move it on at a profit as the potential to make good profit on this is there, i did tell that to the seller (who knew this was a steal), who is a great guy and cool with it, But i just fell in love with it, and i guess had a silly moment about selling it. When the offers came in, i turned them down-no way could i part from this baby! (for less than 2k anyway!) Im sure if i wish to sell it i will have no trouble, buti will regreat it, and im not going to make that mistake. Its not every day you get a fender c/s limited run bass for the price of a 09 standard jazz!!

I dont consider this board my doorstep, but a place to enjoy to buy and sell, If someone is happy to accept £1000 for this, thats fine, but i would never sell this less than £1600, and now on advice, wont sell it for that even, and not for a while yet. It needs a home, rather than being flipped around at low prices, and a home it has found!! It is a very special Jazz with a stunning neck, and the ash body is just stunning. i personally have never played or seen a fender of this quality before, and i know i will regreat selling such a wonderful instrument. Not to mention the fender custom shop treatment and candy that it came with, and thanks to the care the previous owners gave it, it is in presitne condition, and when you show it to people, it has the wow factor!! From what i can see, only one is available to buy in the us at $3800. I think the dealers are right, it will keep going up, but more so, it will become sought after in a few years. Till then, i will keep it, play it and enjoy. This is fender at its very best! Thanks to the original owner for letting this baby go at an amazingly low low price, i now have it. I will say this though if the last owner said £1600 i would have still snapped it up purley for what it is

A certified Fender limited run of 100 ever to be made, custom shop 1970 jazz bass.

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Lesson no.4 in the Basschat Buyers' Guide:

"4. If you have a problem with the price of an item on the forum, stating it in an aggressive way on the thread undermines the sellers listing. Often however feedback on fair pricing is useful and constructive. Bear this in mind and be considerate and vigilant. If anyone is seen being aggressive or SERIOUSLY overpricing an item them you are best off sending a PM to the member and to a moderator. The best policy is that if you do not like the price, move on. The seller won’t sell and you avoid any arguments. "


Whether you agree or disagree with this guy's price (FWIW i have no problem with it) prob best to PM. I've had someone post on one of my for sale threads telling everyone what the item was worth (and they were pretty wide of the mark) so know how annoying it can be

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[quote name='lemmywinks' post='488295' date='May 14 2009, 10:15 PM']Lesson no.4 in the Basschat Buyers' Guide:

"4. If you have a problem with the price of an item on the forum, stating it in an aggressive way on the thread undermines the sellers listing. Often however feedback on fair pricing is useful and constructive. Bear this in mind and be considerate and vigilant. If anyone is seen being aggressive or SERIOUSLY overpricing an item them you are best off sending a PM to the member and to a moderator. The best policy is that if you do not like the price, move on. The seller won’t sell and you avoid any arguments. "


Whether you agree or disagree with this guy's price (FWIW i have no problem with it) prob best to PM. I've had someone post on one of my for sale threads telling everyone what the item was worth (and they were pretty wide of the mark) so know how annoying it can be[/quote]

Yawn....... I know a rip off merchant when I see one !!!

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[quote name='Marcus' post='488383' date='May 14 2009, 11:46 PM']Yawn....... I know a rip off merchant when I see one !!![/quote]



The only one that must have lost out was yourself for selling such a fine bass at £1000 when they are were retailing for £2600 and more and now its as rare as hens teeth-already!!. If you can afford to lose £1100 on a [b]new limited 100 run cs [/b]that is clearly worth at least £1800 then thats up to you, I have not even seen one of these trading elsewhere but the us and thats at $3800 and thats after fenders retail cut from $5000. there is no need to be bitter when someone has this bass and wants its rightful price for it and can get it no problem. :Like that you can moan about all the old wals fenders that cost a fraction of what they are worth now, and being exchanged at £2000 plus. If i ever decide to sell this bass then it will sell for its rightful price, and quite frakly Marcus, its none of your buismess any more. You sold it for a low low price, but that does not mean that i will do the same, but as long as your happy with your £1000 thats just fine, there is no way on earth that i would sell this for the price of a standard us jazz, when it is so much more special than that! . but right now i dont need to nor wish to sell this baby. If you have such a big problem then pm an administator and see what they will say. But as already stated, this is withdrawn due to advice that tis will keep going up in value. THe whole problem is that you sold this way too cheap and now expect others to take the same hit........sorry mate, not going to happen. If this bass is going to trade, then it will trade at a price that it desrves, and nothing less.


Rich.


A grand.........do me a favor!!

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A bass is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it, simple as that.

I think to hijack someones sale with negative comments is a bit out of order, and should be PM'd only.

At the end of the day, buyers can choose for themselves whether or not they want the bass for the price, without input from anyone else.

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Sorry it's not in my habit to post comments in the for sale thread but... if you want to make a profit (not that there's anything wrong with it), why put the bass for sale on the very same board you bought it on, just a few weeks later?

I've had basses that I sold below their value cause I wanted a quick sale, and then later the new owner tried to make a profit on it... that's ok in my book, but at least they had the decency of selling it via another channel, like ebay or through a shop.

I totally empathize with the original owner here... :)

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[quote name='ari' post='488601' date='May 15 2009, 10:22 AM']Sorry it's not in my habit to post comments in the for sale thread but... if you want to make a profit (not that there's anything wrong with it), why put the bass for sale on the very same board you bought it on, just a few weeks later?

I've had basses that I sold below their value cause I wanted a quick sale, and then later the new owner tried to make a profit on it... that's ok in my book, but at least they had the decency of selling it via another channel, like ebay or through a shop.

I totally empathize with the original owner here... :)[/quote]


Of course you are entitled to your veiw, but he needed a quick sale, i dont. If the bass was way overpriced for what it is, then i can understand, but to sell it for its worth its fine. If this bass was priced at £1600 on this board i would have paid it, as i want it. Its not about decency, but if i wish to sell this, i will not cut out fellow bass chat menbers from having the chance to own such a rare and such a class bass cos i wish to make a profit. They should also be able to have a chance to own it. Anyway its not about profit, but getting the true value for this fine bass, which i will say again, is not for sale at this time, due to the sheer future value potential, and that quite frankly there is nothing to touch it IMO. Just for the record i just had a convo with masons and they estimate it at around £2200 and would offer on a px £1600 or there abouts.

Thanks Rich.

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I think the problem with this situation for me is that I can see both sides of the argument. However, there are several dealers on here and ebay (I mean on both, not one or the other), who do the same thing but less openly, and they rarely get flack for it (often because we don't realise they're one and the same person or that it's the same bass at twice the price). Furthermore, selling for profit is not against forum rules and is, in these difficult times, simply common sense, so whatever we think, we perhaps shouldn't really complain? Thirdly, I'm guessing that had it been listed on ebay alone (as suggested above) several folk would have said "why didn't you list it on BC so we could get our hands on it".

I guess GP can't really win here. There's no doubt the bass is worth the asking price and on that basis he's perfectly entitled to ask it. I've sold basses way below value on here before and seen them sold (in one case) at over 200% profit on ebay, and once at around 150% profit on BC, and within a few weeks of my selling it. However, if I choose to sell at a competitive price this will happen - let's face it I'm usually selling at a competitve price to fund another competitively-priced bass and therefore usually need a quick sale, so it's kind of circular.

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[quote name='Beedster' post='488667' date='May 15 2009, 11:16 AM']I think the problem with this situation for me is that I can see both sides of the argument. However, there are several dealers on here and ebay (I mean on both, not one or the other), who do the same thing but less openly, and they rarely get flack for it (often because we don't realise they're one ond the same person or because it's the same bass at twice the price). Furthermore, selling for profit is not against forum rules and is, in these difficult times, simply common sense, so whatever we think, we perhaps shouldn't really complain? Thirdly, I'm guessing that had it been listed on ebay alone (as suggested above) several folk would have said "why didn't you list it on BC so we could get our hands on it".

I guess GP can't really win here. There's no doubt the bass is worth the asking price and on that basis he's perfectly entitled to ask it. I've sold basses way below value on here before and seen them sold (in one case) at over 200% profit on ebay, and once at around 150% profit on BC, and within a few weeks of my selling it. However, if I choose to sell at a competitive price this will happen - let's face it I'm usually selling at a competitve price to fund another competitively-priced bass and therefore usually need a quick sale, so it's kind of circular.[/quote]


I compleatly agree with the above, but one thing with regard Fender basses, is that they seem to hold and command high prices for c/s or vintage, and ols jv squires. Personally i would not sell a fender like this at a giveaway unless it was for something that was equally a giveaway and that would be as easy and respected as the fender to be able to sell on for a price that can recoup some of the loss that i made in the Fender. If you keep losing money then a 3k bass will turn into a £500 bass in the end, unless of course the bank balance is not a problem. Personally i would feel bad to take such a financial hit, and would let the other bass go unless it was a real steal in itself. I guess when i sell something, im happy to sell it for that price, and walk away thinking good luck to the new owner and what they wish to do with it.

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For crying out loud, this is the "Basschat Market Place" part of the forum and all this chap is doing is selling a bass. If he is getting a profit, so what?! Are you jealous? If he can get £1600 for a bass he paid less for then why shouldn't he?

This does not constitute a rip off merchant and you are devaluing his thread with your comments. Grow up.

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