Anyone shot a Gig with a DJI Osmo Pocket 3?

[dave_bass5]

Not sure if this is the correct forum, but here goes. 

I was just wondering if there is anyone with pub gig footage, shot on a OP3.

Very tempted to get one (as i now have a Cat), but these seem to be quite an expensive camera. 

Ive  got the OP1 (which i hardly ever use) and it does ok, as well as most of those cameras with that size sensor, but i like the idea of the 1’’ sensor in the OP3.

Edited March 3, 2024 by dave_bass5

[AlexDelores]

We filmed some promo videos with a professional videographer the other day and he pulled one of these out for a play as he’d just bought it. 
 

I’ll try and get the footage at some point but from the 5 minutes looking at it outside at some scenic footage he was filming, the quality was unbelievable! 
 

I’ve been looking at the insta 360 as I wanted to find a clip that could attach it to my headstock but so far I can’t find anything that would achieve this. I’d say that the Osmo would be too big for this use. 

[dave_bass5]

Thanks for the reply. 
I went ahead and got one anyway, as it does look very useful. I’ve hardly used my old one but this seems more like a big step up. It’s more for giving to a mate in the audience to film rather than them use their phone etc. and shoot portrait 🙄

From my early tests in low light (just the cat at home) the quality is very good compared to other devices i have like this. 
It needs to be simple to use and it doesn’t get much simpler than rotate the screen and its recording, with horizon levelling. 

I have used my GoPro and Max at gigs from the stage. On larger stages I’ve put the Max on the end of the Insta selfie stick, sticking out from the PA stand. This has worked really well. Those 360 cameras give a bit more interest and ability to vary the view over the fix ones like the action cameras. 

Edited March 15, 2024 by dave_bass5

[dave_bass5]

Finally got to use the Osmo Pocket 3 at a small pub gig. There is a bit of distortion as its a wide lens, but other than that im really impressed. Very clean for low light and audio is much better than my iphone Pro.

Edited April 29, 2024 by dave_bass5

[EBS_freak]

Any sample footage you can share?

[dave_bass5]

25 minutes ago, EBS_freak said:

Any sample footage you can share?

Unedited clip here. Not taken from a good angle but it wasn’t taken by me. I’m at the back. Just about noticeable. As you can see, it was a bit cramped up there. 
This was shot in normal mode, 4K 30fps. 10bit H.265

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/o06nn7et4imqaaabsp8ca/DJI_20240427192926_0027_D.MP4?rlkey=e3rj2ywiiin12s3bu8dr1kgsy&dl=0

Edited April 29, 2024 by dave_bass5

[EBS_freak]

1 hour ago, dave_bass5 said:

Just about noticeable. 
 

Whatever instrument you are playing, always a bass player.

[dave_bass5]

1 minute ago, EBS_freak said:

Whatever instrument you are playing, always a bass player.

Haha. Yeah, and i have gone back i bass again, so i guess i can’t outrun the curse 😎

[EBS_freak]

Im actually pretty impressed with that image quality. How does it do in low, low light?

[Al Krow]

Agreed - that's very decent image and sound quality! A 1" chip does seem to be the magic number for indoor low light gigs.

 

Given the cost did you consider getting something like one of the Sony a6000 series with its APS-C chip + a Rode stereo mic, which combined will be in a similar price bracket?

Here's some low light footage from our gig on Fri night for you and Russ to give some comparison of that set up - Al Krow (@al_krow) • Instagram photos and videos

[dave_bass5]

20 minutes ago, EBS_freak said:

Im actually pretty impressed with that image quality. How does it do in low, low light?

Yeah, it’s not bad and seems to handle the high dynamic range ok

ill try and get some real low light footage this week. 
I shot this when we were setting up. It’s a bit darker in places. 
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/em7lhbqkq6b2mt8d9qn55/DJI_20240427180707_0026_D.MP4?rlkey=5lf35wo5y6ice375axrnsjgsc&dl=0

[dave_bass5]

3 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Agreed - that's very decent image and sound quality! A 1" chip does seem to be the magic number for indoor low light gigs.

 

Given the cost did you consider getting something like one of the Sony a6000 series with its APS-C chip + a Rode stereo mic, which combined will be in a similar price bracket?

Here's some low light footage from our gig on Fri night for you and Russ to give some comparison of that set up - Al Krow (@al_krow) • Instagram photos and videos

I have a Canon R7 so have the ability to shoot C-log etc if i want, the point is i couldn’t give that set up to someone in the audience to use.  It’s hard enough ensuring they don’t do bloody portrait video as it is. 
The OP3 is just perfect for gigs, plus it’s stabilised and no one will really nice e

it being used. 
The gig was all recorded in Logic on an iPad as a 14 track project, so the sound is covered (just need to re mix it all). 
This was also the first time out with my Zoom H4e recorder, set about a foot from the snare drum. It came out very clean and had a good crisp top end without any distortion (that i can hear). 

[Al Krow]

7 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

I have a Canon R7 so have the ability to shoot C-log etc if i want, the point is i couldn’t give that set up to someone in the audience to use.  It’s hard enough ensuring they don’t do bloody portrait video as it is. 
The OP3 is just perfect for gigs, plus it’s stabilised and no one will really nice e

it being used. 
The gig was all recorded in Logic on an iPad as a 14 track project, so the sound is covered (just need to re mix it all). 
This was also the first time out with my Zoom H4e recorder, set about a foot from the snare drum. It came out very clean and had a good crisp top end without any distortion (that i can hear). 

That all makes sense. So we are not hearing the audio from the DJI itself, just the video?

[Al Krow]

I totally get you not wanting to be too reliant on an audience member - we just stand mount our camera and try to remember to stop it going into standby mode every 30 mins!

[dave_bass5]

19 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

That all makes sense. So we are not hearing the audio from the DJI itself, just the video?

That’s the unedited OP3, inc it’s audio. 

[EBS_freak]

1 hour ago, Al Krow said:

Agreed - that's very decent image and sound quality! A 1" chip does seem to be the magic number for indoor low light gigs.

 

Given the cost did you consider getting something like one of the Sony a6000 series with its APS-C chip + a Rode stereo mic, which combined will be in a similar price bracket?

Here's some low light footage from our gig on Fri night for you and Russ to give some comparison of that set up - Al Krow (@al_krow) • Instagram photos and videos

Biggest improvement would be to light the band so you can see your faces!

 

I know everybody has their own take on mobile, easy setup lighting... but if you flood light your band then have the other lights doing their thing, the presence of your band will be enhanced. At the moment, there's nothing different  between how you are being lit and the people on the dance floor.

 

(I hate sound to light lighting btw so I'm a tough crowd)

[dave_bass5]

8 minutes ago, EBS_freak said:

Biggest improvement would be to light the band so you can see your faces!

 

I know everybody has their own take on mobile, easy setup lighting... but if you flood light your band then have the other lights doing their thing, the presence of your band will be enhanced. At the moment, there's nothing different  between how you are being lit and the people on the dance floor.

 

(I hate sound to light lighting btw so I'm a tough crowd)

So true, but we find it very hard to light the band from the front at a lot of our gigs. Small stages are a pain. 
We do use a few LED spots/ Disco type lights on the floor pointing towards us a lot of the time, but it’s not ideal. 
 

[dave_bass5]

We recently got a couple of these, and were quite surprised at how bright they are. We didn’t use them at the gig on Sat but at the previous one we found they made quite a difference to how we looked from further away. 
 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B09XDLM4N9?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Edited May 17, 2024 by dave_bass5

[Al Krow]

4 hours ago, EBS_freak said:

Biggest improvement would be to light the band so you can see your faces!

 

I know everybody has their own take on mobile, easy setup lighting... but if you flood light your band then have the other lights doing their thing, the presence of your band will be enhanced. At the moment, there's nothing different  between how you are being lit and the people on the dance floor.

 

(I hate sound to light lighting btw so I'm a tough crowd)

 

That's fair Russ, but I think the counter is that sound to light can give a band some additional visual energy for the audience? No?

 

Having said that:

- lighting is a missed trick for many bands and certainly not an area of great expertise for most;

- our lighting rigs tend to be fairly basic (and yet another thing for the put upon bassplayer to have to sort!).

Edited April 29, 2024 by Al Krow

[dave_bass5]

54 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

 

That's fair Russ, but I think the counter is that sound to light can give a band some additional visual energy for the audience? No?

 

Having said that:

- lighting is a missed trick for many bands and certainly not an area of great expertise for most;

- our lighting rigs tend to be fairly basic (and yet another thing for put upon bassplayer to have to sort!).

Yes, we are the same. Me and Dawn have to travel with my gear, the PA and all the lights, so we are limited to what we can take. 
Also the stages are quite small and it’s difficult sometimes lighting is from the front, at least at head height. 

[EBS_freak]

5 hours ago, Al Krow said:

 

That's fair Russ, but I think the counter is that sound to light can give a band some additional visual energy for the audience? No?

 

Having said that:

- lighting is a missed trick for many bands and certainly not an area of great expertise for most;

- our lighting rigs tend to be fairly basic (and yet another thing for the put upon bassplayer to have to sort!).

 

I dunno, Id rather see a well lit band than a light show. You know you have hanging bolt points on top of your speaker cabs? Perfect place to put secure a led panel on top of the speaker to cross fire across the stage.

Edited April 29, 2024 by EBS_freak

[Al Krow]

How you getting on with your Osmo Pocket 3 Dave? Still preferring it to other kit for live music recording?

 

I see these are available online for around £450 which seems to be a decent price for such a capable bit of kit!

[dave_bass5]

3 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

How you getting on with your Osmo Pocket 3 Dave? Still preferring it to other kit for live music recording?

 

I see these are available online for around £450 which seems to be a decent price for such a capable bit of kit!

To be honest I hardly use it. I just dont seem to go anywhere interesting much at the moment. 

Saying that, I have no regrets. It's certainly the best hand held video camera ive owned. very easy to use and IQ is really good. My iPhone probably does just as well but doesn't have the stabilisation, and is a bit noisier in low light (or there is more NR appleid so not quite as sharp). 

It  has a nice DR and seems to handle bright lights well. it's a big improvement on my old OP2, which hasn't been used in about 3 years. 

 

I recently got a small magnetic mount for it so hoping to use it more at gigs from the stage. 

[Woodinblack]

I need to get something done with my camera - its a bit dead at the moment, its a zoom but as is the way with a lot of stuff, anyone who ever decided that USB-Micro was a good idea for providing power to anything that was heavier than a lead needed their head examining.

This looks good but nto sure I trust it to not be nicked by the crowd!

[Al Krow]

1 hour ago, dave_bass5 said:

To be honest I hardly use it. I just dont seem to go anywhere interesting much at the moment. 

Saying that, I have no regrets. It's certainly the best hand held video camera ive owned. very easy to use and IQ is really good. My iPhone probably does just as well but doesn't have the stabilisation, and is a bit noisier in low light (or there is more NR appleid so not quite as sharp). 

It  has a nice DR and seems to handle bright lights well. it's a big improvement on my old OP2, which hasn't been used in about 3 years. 

 

I recently got a small magnetic mount for it so hoping to use it more at gigs from the stage. 

 

Thanks for that update, Dave. Excuse my ignorance but what does DR stand for?

 

Do you have a link to the magnetic mount - sounds like a good accessory to have!

 

Have you used it with the wireless mic, was thinking that may come in handy if the camera is being mounted on a PA pole?