Stub Mandrel Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Having hell of a job finding clear information on what C247 is. There are zillions of sites that claim to be c247.whatever. These seem to includes finance, mobile phone, recruitment and security companies. I am not going to fill in a registration form with sensitive details untilI know who and what I'm signing up for. Is it an entertainment agency or some sort of employment agencyvthat also deals with with bouncers and pizza deliverers? Google is 'not' my friend in this case, this search seems to return no useful info, for example. Do C247 have a proper website? https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+c247+registered&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-m&sca_esv=a921428cb73996e2&sxsrf=ACQVn0-K-iTD0yBmQfRXkWz0vq2qdr567g:1711448339517&ei=E6ECZuGfH5-shbIPusCXqAg&start=20&sa=N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) No expert in this but I have heard of workplace management software called C247. Think it’s some SaaS based offering used by a bunch of different companies/sectors for vetting and management of employees? Edited March 26 by tegs07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 https://www.c247.live/intro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I think it's a payment system like Event UK. Just messaged our drummer to ask him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Things like this make me feel really old. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 (edited) 2 hours ago, tegs07 said: https://www.c247.live/intro Exactly, that tells me absolutely nothing about how it works for band bookings, and it's entirely focused on the employer and there's no information relevant to booking an entity rather than employing an individual. Edited March 26 by Stub Mandrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 37 minutes ago, Rich said: Things like this make me feel really old. neither do i! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 50 minutes ago, tauzero said: I think it's a payment system like Event UK. Just messaged our drummer to ask him. My guess is some pubs use it to employ staff and somehow expect it to work for hiring bands - I can't see (or find out) how this works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 The are glad I reached out and customer care will be in touch. Preparing to put my head in between and go blubble, blubble, blubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 26/03/2024 at 10:26, Stub Mandrel said: Having hell of a job finding clear information on what C247 is. Oh come on Stubbs, it's between C246* and C248.** * a Latvian railway locomotive ** a navigation buoy off Porthcawl 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Oh come on C is 262, Bis 247Hz maybe the pub only employ guitarists who tune to Eb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Edge Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Shockingly awful example of a business website, that assumes any visitor already knows what they do. And doesn’t tell you in plain English anyway. Plus none of the links in the footer, including T&C’s,and Privacy policy, which are mandatory on a business site, go no-where. I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt and suggest it’s a website under development and shouldn’t really be live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 16 hours ago, Cliff Edge said: Shockingly awful example of a business website, that assumes any visitor already knows what they do. And doesn’t tell you in plain English anyway. Plus none of the links in the footer, including T&C’s,and Privacy policy, which are mandatory on a business site, go no-where. I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt and suggest it’s a website under development and shouldn’t really be live. That's shocking for a company whose aim seems to be supplying hr services... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 17 hours ago, Cliff Edge said: Plus none of the links in the footer, including T&C’s,and Privacy policy, which are mandatory on a business site, go no-where. I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt and suggest it’s a website under development and shouldn’t really be live. I'd dob them in to the relevant authority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 28/03/2024 at 11:56, Phil Starr said: Oh come on C is 262, Bis 247Hz maybe the pub only employ guitarists who tune to Eb C0 = 16.35Hz C1 = 32.7Hz C2 = 65.4Hz ... C247 = 3.7 x 10^75 Hz Slightly above the range of human hearing, and probably won't be reproduced too faithfully by the average PA speaker. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I thought it was just a really long tape cassette 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard R Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I was intrigued enough to visit the software company's site: https://www.opusapeiro.com/ They seem to be focused on software to collect costs from subcontractors and suppliers. Taking out the BS about data driven analytics etc, then they appear to offer a SaaS based service for companies to control supplier costs by getting suppliers and contractors to submit invoices directly on this system. Not inherently a bad thing, and I think the C247 (Contractors 24/7 maybe) site holds the forms tailored for that. It reminds be a bit of Green King (I think it was), who use their Concurr employee expenses system as invoice remittance for bands. Concurr is bloody awful for employees and should never be foisted on suppliers. This looks like a better attempt to solve the same problem - but the company does need to get its act together on the communication and legal side, no matter how good the software is. So should whoever is asking you to use this actually, as it is the pub/club/ whatever who are asking you to fill in the form and therefore are legally the data processor with OpusAperio being another processor on their behalf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoham Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 21 minutes ago, Richard R said: It reminds be a bit of Green King (I think it was), who use their Concurr employee expenses system as invoice remittance for bands. Concurr is bloody awful for employees and should never be foisted on suppliers. This looks like a better attempt to solve the same problem - but the company does need to get its act together on the communication and legal side, no matter how good the software is. Ah Concur! I work with financial systems for the day-job, and this can work well when implemented properly. Card transactions appearing automatically, integration with the accountancy system etc. However, Greene King's use of it to pay bands is horrible. We only play one of their venues, and the process is unnecessarily complex - far from intuitive! I understand these large chains need proper governance and the days of cash from the till are long gone, but the way they've shoe-horned an employee expense system to handle is little more than a bodge. George 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heather1a Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 We've had to use them before - absolutely awful to figure it all out Also, when you submit your fee - even in the bit about +VAT, actually ADD 20% to whatever your fee is (eg, £300? Say £360. If it's £500, say £600, £2000? Well, £2400 innit??) - they will pay you EX VAT no matter what you've put in. So, add the VAT on top of your fee so you get paid what you actually want. It is DEFFO set up for casual staffing, like bar staff, waiters, cleaners, agency staff etc. It is NOT designed for bands to be paid for gigs at all. Good luck with it all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 (edited) On 24/06/2024 at 22:57, heather1a said: We've had to use them before - absolutely awful to figure it all out Also, when you submit your fee - even in the bit about +VAT, actually ADD 20% to whatever your fee is (eg, £300? Say £360. If it's £500, say £600, £2000? Well, £2400 innit??) - they will pay you EX VAT no matter what you've put in. So, add the VAT on top of your fee so you get paid what you actually want. It is DEFFO set up for casual staffing, like bar staff, waiters, cleaners, agency staff etc. It is NOT designed for bands to be paid for gigs at all. Good luck with it all! Sound a right mess Edited June 25 by Stub Mandrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 On 29/03/2024 at 23:59, ahpook said: I thought it was just a really long tape cassette Shocking news! This will be the end of albums having A sides and B sides. I don't like the sound of this. I may be wrong, but I feel we're on a slippery slope here! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 On 26/03/2024 at 12:13, Rich said: Things like this make me feel really old. On 26/03/2024 at 12:51, Stub Mandrel said: neither do i! I have found my people! 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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