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Musicman20
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Right..this is gonna be a long one.

Ive been looking at review after review.

I have now got a list of 3 normal volume heads that are possibilities:

Shuttlemax 6.0, Little Mark 3, Little Mark Tube.

The cabs I was thinking are below (cab might come a few months down the line)

Epifani 2x12, Shroeder 2x12, GB 2x12

The cab HAS to be lightweight.....otherwise there is no point. I have VERY heavy cabs already!

I have another option....EVEN louder heads:

Shuttlemax 12.0, Little Mark 800, Little Mark Tube 800.

How loud do I really need to go?! I mean, 500W at 4ohms for the MB stuff means I need a good cab to handle that power.

Do any UK bassists regularly use that much power? What cab would be best for an 800W head?

With the GB its more of a case of having enough cabs! But do i seriously need 1200W? A volume reality check is needed!

I did some searches but these are the options Im left with.

PS - Id love a Berg but they dont do a 2x12 :)....

Please assist experts!

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Hey

I play mainly pretty heavy punk...but I definitely dont play simple punk.

I would like something that can do most styles, from rock to funk to punk etc etc. I use Fender Jap P bass, 2 x Stingrays 3 band eq and soon to be a USA Fender Jazz. So pretty much the tradtional style of basses. I use a pick mainly...but Im getting much quicker with my fingers and slap is getting better too.

I play venues that arent really that massive. I currently own a Orange AD200b so I have tube gain on tap with that. I just want something different and more modern/clean for at home use and gigs where I really cannot justify taking out my Orange...or that we dont have enough space! I love the Orange but its size and value put me off taking it sometimes.

So yeah....small to medium venues I guess. I am challenging two guitarists with half stacks and a loud drummer. The old Trace I sold was ok at 8Ohms (280W ish) at most venues..and at 4Ohms (400W) it had wads of power left. Im guessing, but not 100%, that a MB 500W will be damn loud....even though its tiny!

Thanks :)

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Yeah, the 500w heads should be plenty loud enough. I run a VT Bass pedal into my Markbass when I need a little extra tubey grit for pickstyle punk stuff. You should be able to get a similar effect by cranking the gain on the Shuttle 6.0 or LM Tube.

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On the cab front, what about the Barefaced Big One for price and performance?

And on the amp front I'm thinking about a lighter amp myself and am facing the same dilema as you.
I'm fancying the GB Shuttle 6.0 at this moment in time but I keep looking at 2 rack unit size amp heads i.e. GK RB700/1001, Thunderfunk, Aguilar AG500-SC, Ampeg SVT-3, etc. There's just so much choice out there.
I have been recommended the GK amp heads from a few different people I must say.

Good luck and let us know what you go for in the end.

JTB.

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Tonight I'll be playing: Lakland Duck Dunn --> DHA VT2 Twin --> Eden WTX-260 --> Barefaced Big One (Serial No. #1 :) ).

The pub's pretty small, but they like their music LOUD. I'll be amazed if I get the Volume knob past the 10 o'clock position.

The DD weighs 7.5lbs, the VT2 is 1lb, the WTX is 3.5lbs = 12.0lbs the lot. The cab weighs 45lbs ... but it's on wheels.

Did you say you wanted a light weight rig?

:rolleyes:

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For an even lighter rig how about 1 or 2 Barefaced Compacts? These are 1x15 and weigh only about 30lbs and are very easy to carry. I had a Schroeder 1212L and sold it as soon as I had used a Compact for the first time.

The Compact is probably not as apparently loud as the Schroeder, which is fairly mid prominent, but produce a more even response that goes down further and is very efficient. At 8 ohms you could drive a pair with any of the heads you mention and that would give you an ear bleedingly loud rig. At £425 delivered they are also probably cheaper than any of the cabs you list.

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Don't get too hung up on the wattage. A 1000w amp is only going to be 3db louder than a 500w one, which is pretty much the minimum most people will appreciate as being louder. The difference between 400w and 500w will be imperceptible. The speakers will make a bigger difference to volume, depending on their sensitivity and ability to reproduce bottom end at volume. Alex has put up a pretty decent FAQ on this on his site - [url="http://www.barefacedbass.com/technical.html"]http://www.barefacedbass.com/technical.html[/url]

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