Marky L Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Wotcha Well, as it says above (but add in cheap). Anything anyone can suggest? I want to be able to biff in the bpms and hit go and a big assed light begins to flash.. so I can shove that in our drummers face so he can count in songs at the right speed. (Something he seems to think only he can do). Thankee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Can it be a phone app? There are quite a few with visual indicators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 28 minutes ago, lidl e said: Can it be a phone app? There are quite a few with visual indicators I think stand alone would be better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 23 minutes ago, Marky L said: I think stand alone would be better. I mean, Thomann has many. https://www.thomann.de/ie/metronomes.html I know a lot of drummers like those watch ones that you wear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Marky L said: Wotcha Well, as it says above (but add in cheap). Anything anyone can suggest? I want to be able to biff in the bpms and hit go and a big assed light begins to flash.. so I can shove that in our drummers face so he can count in songs at the right speed. (Something he seems to think only he can do). Thankee. That's all very well, but what if he gets hypnotised by the light and never starts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 54 minutes ago, tauzero said: That's all very well, but what if he gets hypnotised by the light and never starts? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 hours ago, Marky L said: Wotcha Well, as it says above (but add in cheap). Anything anyone can suggest? I want to be able to biff in the bpms and hit go and a big assed light begins to flash.. so I can shove that in our drummers face so he can count in songs at the right speed. (Something he seems to think only he can do). Thankee. Do you have to shove it in his face? If not, can I suggest you get a vibrating metronome, because I can think of a better place to 'shove it'. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Jeff Berlin does not approve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dclaassen Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 The light is really effective, but I would vote for the watch/metronome with the tactile feedback. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 (edited) 5 hours ago, lowdown said: Do you have to shove it in his face? If not, can I suggest you get a vibrating metronome, because I can think of a better place to 'shove it'. 😂 Shoving it in his face allows me to say "THIS SPEED!" at him and for him not pretend he wasn't aware. If I get a confirmation then I'm part way happy. Edited April 18 by Marky L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Marky L said: Shoving it in his face allows me to say "THIS SPEED!" at him and for him not pretend he wasn't aware. If I get a confirmation then I'm part way happy. I sincerely hope for your health and safety's sake that your bandmate drummer has a lot more patience and restraint than I. A pedagogic approach of this nature would, at a minimum, be met by me with a deft drumstick through the offending metronome, and a fair few Anglo-Saxon words and phrases that would make my displeasure clear to all around. Still, if it works for you both... Edited April 18 by Dad3353 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 7 hours ago, lowdown said: Do you have to shove it in his face? If not, can I suggest you get a vibrating metronome, because I can think of a better place to 'shove it'. 😂 Beware, he may suddenly shout out "checkmate!" at an inopportune moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 When I saw the thread title I Iiterally thought "what, for your drummer, hurr hurr hurr". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Yamaha used to make a blue cone thing with the LED at the peak iirc. A little bit retro vintage for good measure? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) I don't know why drummers insist on counting in the band. It's not the drummers responsibility to keep the band in time. I wish more drummers and musicians recognised that. If he can't stay in time with the rest of the band he needs to go away and practice drumming. Edited April 19 by TimR 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebassmusic Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 27 minutes ago, TimR said: I don't know why drummers insist on counting in the band. It's not the drummers responsibility to keep the band in time. I wish more drummers and musicians recognised that. If he can't stay in time with the rest of the band he needs to go away and practice drumming. I think having 1 person in the band to count in all songs can give a bit of consistency to start tempo. The number of times I've played in bands where another musician (usually the guitarist) would start the song at a totally different speed due to nerves / adrenalin / last song played / they just feel like it! 🤣 In my band we try not to leave much space between songs and use the drummer as the focal point. They're queing up the next tempo whilst the guitarist checks tuning or someones changing patches etc. Everyone knows who does the count in and should there be any technical problems they can signal to the drummer to hold off. It seems quicker and pretty efficient. I agree that it's everyones responsibility to keep time together but it's the drummers role to provide the pulse that we keep time to. If the drummer can't keep to the rehearsed beat then you've got problems...... I'm in the house band for a local jam (so no real pressure on getting things right) and we regularly play "Le Grange" which on the record is about 160bpm. The guitarist always starts it off about 170bpm and by the end of the song we've achieved 190+bpm Our drummer is usualy solid but for whatever reason on that one, goes astray 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Acebassmusic said: I think having 1 person in the band to count in all songs can give a bit of consistency to start tempo. The number of times I've played in bands where another musician (usually the guitarist) would start the song at a totally different speed due to nerves / adrenalin / last song played / they just feel like it! 🤣 In my band we try not to leave much space between songs and use the drummer as the focal point. They're queing up the next tempo whilst the guitarist checks tuning or someones changing patches etc. Everyone knows who does the count in and should there be any technical problems they can signal to the drummer to hold off. It seems quicker and pretty efficient. I agree that it's everyones responsibility to keep time together but it's the drummers role to provide the pulse that we keep time to. If the drummer can't keep to the rehearsed beat then you've got problems...... I'm in the house band for a local jam (so no real pressure on getting things right) and we regularly play "Le Grange" which on the record is about 160bpm. The guitarist always starts it off about 170bpm and by the end of the song we've achieved 190+bpm Our drummer is usualy solid but for whatever reason on that one, goes astray 🤣 Yep, and most of this in the link below as well. Please enter at your own risk - It's a dot com for Drummers. This Is Why Drummers Are So Important In A Band Edited April 19 by lowdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) On 18/04/2024 at 11:29, Marky L said: ...so I can shove that in our drummers face so he can count in songs at the right speed. (Something he seems to think only he can do). Thankee. Yes, why does it always has to be the guy who has the responsibility for holding down the beat throughout the songs that gets to count in the tempo? Why can't everybody do their own count in? No one needs to tell me which tempo to play in! Polyrhythmics for the way! Edited April 19 by Baloney Balderdash 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I took to indicating the tempo with my foot and swaying so the drummer can pick up on it subliminally. It seems to be working. He used to be all over the place but since I started my little routine he almost never gets it wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 40 minutes ago, lowdown said: Yep, and most of this in the link below as well. Please enter at your own risk - It's a dot com for Drummers. This Is Why Drummers Are So Important In A Band Well that's the first paragraph wrong to start with. 😂 No wonder there's so much issues with drummers who think everyone should be following them. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, TimR said: Well that's the first paragraph wrong to start with. 😂 No wonder there's so much issues with drummers who think everyone should be following them. 🤦♂️ What's wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 4 hours ago, TimR said: I don't know why drummers insist on counting in the band. It's not the drummers responsibility to keep the band in time. I wish more drummers and musicians recognised that. If he can't stay in time with the rest of the band he needs to go away and practice drumming. Now that is another very big can of worms recently opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 3 hours ago, Acebassmusic said: I think having 1 person in the band to count in all songs can give a bit of consistency to start tempo. The number of times I've played in bands where another musician (usually the guitarist) would start the song at a totally different speed due to nerves / adrenalin / last song played / they just feel like it! 🤣 In my band we try not to leave much space between songs and use the drummer as the focal point. They're queing up the next tempo whilst the guitarist checks tuning or someones changing patches etc. Everyone knows who does the count in and should there be any technical problems they can signal to the drummer to hold off. It seems quicker and pretty efficient. I agree that it's everyones responsibility to keep time together but it's the drummers role to provide the pulse that we keep time to. If the drummer can't keep to the rehearsed beat then you've got problems...... I'm in the house band for a local jam (so no real pressure on getting things right) and we regularly play "Le Grange" which on the record is about 160bpm. The guitarist always starts it off about 170bpm and by the end of the song we've achieved 190+bpm Our drummer is usualy solid but for whatever reason on that one, goes astray 🤣 Well ours would start at 190 and it would end at 140. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 17 hours ago, Dad3353 said: I sincerely hope for your health and safety's sake that your bandmate drummer has a lot more patience and restraint than I. A pedagogic approach of this nature would, at a minimum, be met by me with a deft drumstick through the offending metronome, and a fair few Anglo-Saxon words and phrases that would make my displeasure clear to all around. Still, if it works for you both... And my bass would be around his head! It's just a frustration that I am dweling on too much, but it could be a quick and easy fix. Obviously I did employ a little artistic licence for comedic effect. I would just hold it close enough so he was aware and could act upon it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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