NancyJohnson Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-greatest-drummers-of-all-time-77933/christian-vander-30083/ Harrumph. No Mike Portnoy. No William Calhoun. No Steve Jansen. No Bernie Dresel. Oh, god the omissions speak volumes. Travis Barker 'only' #99? Meg White is in there. So that's OK, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) Drums is/are my main instrument so i was casually interested to see it, though not expecting much after the bobbins that was the greatest 250 guitarists. That Meg White's in there didn't fill me with hope. Actually as far as lists go it's not bad, though no way would I include Bonham, Moon and Mitchell in the top 10. My top 10 , in no order; Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Art Blakey, Billy Cobham (ridiculously low on the list), Jo Jones, Tony Williams, Jack de Johnette, Bill Bruford, Dennis Chambers. Yeah it's heavily geared towards jazzers but IMO the great jazz drummers are a breed apart. Edited April 23 by Barking Spiders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) Knowing what these lists are usually like, I'm surprised how many good drummers are on the list. Edited April 23 by chris_b 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, Barking Spiders said: My top 10 , in no order; Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Art Blakey, Billy Cobham (ridiculously low on the list), Jo Jones, Tony Williams, Jack de Johnette, Bill Bruford, Dennis Chambers. Yeah it's heavily geared towards jazzers but IMO the great jazz drummers are a breed apart. No Elvin?! 😯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetera Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 No Danny Seraphine? No Todd Sucherman? But........ Meg White....? It's almost like 'Rolling Stone' ENJOY not having a clue about music..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterMute Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 "Pete Thomas is the rock and roll drummer of his generation by some considerable distance," Costello tweeted last year, "and that you never read that in polls tells you everything you need to know about 'polls' and nothing about drummers." "Meanwhile, despite his recent retirement from touring, Peart remains perhaps the most revered – and air-drummed-to – live sticksman in all of rock, famous as the architect of literally showstopping set-piece solos." Strangest way to say Neil Peart died... No Gavin Harrison? Garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) Danny Carey and Ronald Shannon Jackson is on it, so I am all fine... Knowing how these Top 100 Musician lists works I am not too nit picking about their position, where, especially in Ronald Shannon Jackson case, they in reality ought to have been rated higher. I am just glad they weren't left out. However I couldn't have taken a Top 100 Drummers in a Rock magazine serious (not that I really do anyway) if they had left out Danny Carey. Danny Carey truly is one of the absolute greatest rock drummers of all times. Edited April 24 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 36 minutes ago, cetera said: It's almost like 'Rolling Stone' ENJOY not having a clue about music..... The word for that might be "fricke". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 13 hours ago, Mykesbass said: No Elvin?! 😯 I hadn't forgotten him as I could've easily had him in there too plus many more jazzers and funakateers so I tried to limit myself to just 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Barking Spiders said: I hadn't forgotten him as I could've easily had him in there too plus many more jazzers and funakateers so I tried to limit myself to just 10 Just love his explosive snare hits - drives Hard Bop like no other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just gone through the list again and checked out many unfamiliar players and have revised my opinion. Actually it's a pretty rubbish list. I lean towards jazz and funk drumming but I've a lot of respect for metal and proggy drummers, many that are not included or are rated lowly: Tomas Haake, Marco Minnemann, Mike Portnoy, Charlie Benante, Chris Adler, Mario Duplantier, Joey Jordison and Matt Garstka. I'd kick out all of the 'indie rock' drummers and many who happen to be in famous bands included to make space. From the jazz side there's no Louis Belson, Jimmy Cobb, Art Taylor, Joe Morello, Chico Hamilton, Roy Haynes anxd Kenny Clarke. Ay caramba. Be good to hear what other drummists in the BC community think. I think it's a readers choice list which would explain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 If you were looking to be a bit more diverse and have more women in the list I'd have put in a bid for Karen Carpenter over Meg White. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 It claims to be a "greatest" list, not best. Greatness does not necessarily correllate with technical abililty, nor do they even specify it's about drumming greatness, just drummers of unspecified greatness, so they have given themselves carte blanche to add anyone at all. You could argue Meg White displayed greatness through the level of popularity the White Stripes achieved with such limited ability on the drum stool. Rick Allen, carving out a career as a one-armed drummer, is pretty great, in my opinion, but I wouldn't want him in a death metal band... yet. Click bait list click click click. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssexBuccaneer Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I was reminded why I seldom read these lists after hunting twice for Nicko McBrain (assuming that I must have missed him first time around) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cloud Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 23/04/2024 at 22:19, chris_b said: Knowing what these lists are usually like, I'm surprised how many good drummers are on the list. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 24/04/2024 at 00:33, Barking Spiders said: Drums is/are my main instrument so i was casually interested to see it, though not expecting much after the bobbins that was the greatest 250 guitarists. That Meg White's in there didn't fill me with hope. Actually as far as lists go it's not bad, though no way would I include Bonham, Moon and Mitchell in the top 10. My top 10 , in no order; Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Art Blakey, Billy Cobham (ridiculously low on the list), Jo Jones, Tony Williams, Jack de Johnette, Bill Bruford, Dennis Chambers. Yeah it's heavily geared towards jazzers but IMO the great jazz drummers are a breed apart. I changed my mind about Bonham’s playing as a result of having to learn some of his parts and thus you end up doing a lot of research to get it right. Not because of the technicality in playing his rhythms, as you say jazz drummers are the masters and a breed apart, but because I began to realise how many zep songs you can identify just from the drums. As for great drummers, one of the top me is Papa Jo Jones. He was an early proponent of the hi hat and bringing the drums forward as something other than just a basic timekeeper. Also, I use his ‘trick’ of having a floor tom to the left of the hi hat as I find this is a great way of making more interesting fill patterns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I would have thought 'Harvey Mason' would have been considered worthy of a place in the 100 greatest Drummers list, considering his modest CV? Maybe Rolling Stone could have allotted him the number 94 in the position of *greatness*. Artist Credits - Harvey Mason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baloney Balderdash Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 11 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: That's was pretty damn amazing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Unless the list has qualifying objective criteria for inclusion and ranking it is meaningless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 21 minutes ago, Jean-Luc Pickguard said: Unless the list has qualifying objective criteria for inclusion and ranking it is meaningless. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Top 10s, top 100s, 'the greatest...'s, they're all nonsense and this one is no different. Music isn't a damn competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Surely the Rolling Stones' 100 best drummers are just Charlie Watts written 100 times? Oh hang on, damn that pesky apostrophe ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 For me, the best drummers are the drummers that can do it all, from heavy rock, to jazz trios. Most drummers who play with the same band for years, only have the one style. I wonder, does that make them a great drummer, or just a great drummer for that particular band. I watched Dave Grohl sit in the drum stool with The Pretenders at Glastonbury and his style wasn't right for the song (far too messy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 No Eloy, no list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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