IK Multimedia ToneX One, anyone?

[warwickhunt]

Tonex experts...

 

Can you answer please?  Tonex ONE in stomp mode, is it running one of the amp modes in the background or is it purely acting as a single use pedal (when off it is bypassed)?  Can't find the answer online.

[bnt]

38 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

Tonex experts...

 

Can you answer please?  Tonex ONE in stomp mode, is it running one of the amp modes in the background or is it purely acting as a single use pedal (when off it is bypassed)?  Can't find the answer online.

 

It's the latter - bypassed, no amp model. If you want to switch between Amp and Amp+FX, you use Dual mode.

[warwickhunt]

To clarify @bnt - you can set up slot/preset A to have an amp sim and a couple of effects and have slot/preset B to have an amp sim and different effect(s)?

 

I essentially require 1 global amp tone/EQ and then I add either a bit of drive (for 3 songs) or a flanger (2 song).  I don't think the Tonex will work for me as that is effectively 3 settings; clean / dirty / flanger.   I'll end up having a preamp pedal (which I have a few of) before the Tonex and the Tonex would be set up with A = dirt / B = flanger.  Not a one pedal solution.  

 

I've just bought a 2nd hand Zoom MS 60B (not the +) which 'probably' gives me what I need but it is not intuitive (at the moment) to set up, to fit my one pedal solution.  

[bnt]

A preset can contain as much or as little as you want: any combination of an amp, cab, modulation, delay etc. These are blocks that you can turn on or off, any combination works. An amp model can be anything amp-like e.g. it can be a full amp or a SansAmp, a fuzz pedal, whatever you have a model for or can capture.

 

Then once a preset is saved, you drag it to one of three slots on the pedal: two for Dual (A/B) mode, the third for Stomp (on/off) mode. Here's a screenshot I just took: in A and B I have The Fridge with and without a Phaser. I put a B15 Rotary preset in the Stomp slot. All slots take full presets.

There are loads of modelled devices from other users free on ToneNet in the amp. That's where I got the Ampeg B15 model, while The Fridge is a factory model.

[bnt]

And here's a screenshot of the Home page where you edit Presets. In this example, Modulation is active while Delay and Reverb are off. If you click on Modulation you can set that up e.g. I'm using the Rotary effect on this preset. So the workflow is basically to create and edit presets in the app, then add them to the pedal. The app and pedal are supposed to sound identical, as long as you watch out for what I mentioned above: you can have your sound being processed by the pedal and the app at the same time, which doesn't sound right. You want either/or, not both.

 

Edited November 24, 2024 by bnt

[warwickhunt]

That makes sense.    

 

Sadly it won't allow a 'clean' amp setting and then a dirty (crunch) setting and then a phaser/flanger setting for use in a set 'on the fly'.  I can have 2 out of the 3 but not all 3.

[bnt]

You can switch between Dual and Stomp modes on the pedal, to access the 3rd preset, but it's a bit of a faff: hold down ALT for 8 seconds, then turn the first knob. Not something I fancy doing between songs on a dark stage. However, on my pedalboard I can add a bit of crunch with another pedal e.g. my Mosky Silver Horse "Klone".

 

PS I should mention that the pedal also has a tuner that uses the LEDs on the knobs. Very basic, but handy.

Edited November 24, 2024 by bnt

[warwickhunt]

Mid gig, busy schedule, I'd not want to shuttle between modes!  I can add pedals but I'm looking for a 1 pedal solution.  

[bnt]

1 minute ago, warwickhunt said:

Mid gig, busy schedule, I'd not want to shuttle between modes!  I can add pedals but I'm looking for a 1 pedal solution.  

 

Maybe the ToneX Pedal version, then - the One is the little brother of that. Both handle the same presets, software etc., and it's a matter of form factor.. The single footswitch limits us to those two modes.

[warwickhunt]

Yeah it was the £118/£128 that was appealing to me initially.  If I start looking at £300 I could buy a pair of Tonex ONE pedals... but my budget isn't stretching past £150.    

[warwickhunt]

Actually the original Tonex Pedal can be had for £250 which is a canny drop on what I recall the cost being on release!  Looking at it though, I'd still need to run other pedals for phaser (+ my other part time band needs me to use an Octave & Chorus)... back to the drawing board!  LOL

[Woodinblack]

Seems like a good idea for my mini pedalboard idea, so I got one, at £118 seems a very good deal if it is of use

[zonular]

Debating one myself, can anyone weigh in on how this is as an audio interface (I don't have one and I'm in an either or situation)

[bnt]

59 minutes ago, zonular said:

Debating one myself, can anyone weigh in on how this is as an audio interface (I don't have one and I'm in an either or situation)

It performs very well as an interface to my Mac Mini, no issues there. I haven’t tried it with Windows yet. But see my previous post for some incompatibility I found with iPads, which I believe is due to sample rates. 

[warwickhunt]

I've taken the plunge! 

 

It transpires that operating the pedal in edit mode you can toggle through 3 'settings'.  Hopefully I'll be able to use the 3 main tones that I need, otherwise this will go in front of a Zoom MS60 and I'll do everything from the 2 pedals.

[zonular]

43 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

I've taken the plunge! 

 

It transpires that operating the pedal in edit mode you can toggle through 3 'settings'.  Hopefully I'll be able to use the 3 main tones that I need, otherwise this will go in front of a Zoom MS60 and I'll do everything from the 2 pedals.

That's my plan too!! 

[bnt]

Are you talking about Preset Browsing mode, manual pg. 21? I completely overlooked that until today. I'm trying it now, and you can indeed switch between three presets in order. The manual even says:

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TIP: If you need to use 3 presets while performing you can leave the browsing mode on and use the footswitch to cycle among the 3 active slots.

If you use that, it will be the three presets you set in the app. Unless you turn the knob, which chooses from the 20 presets stored on the pedal by colour - so something you probably shouldn't do on a gig!

[warwickhunt]

3 minutes ago, bnt said:

Are you talking about Preset Browsing mode, manual pg. 21? I completely overlooked that until today. I'm trying it now, and you can indeed switch between three presets in order. The manual even says:

If you use that, it will be the three presets you set in the app. Unless you turn the knob, which chooses from the 20 presets stored on the pedal by colour - so something you probably shouldn't do on a gig!

 

I'd always have 3 presets (max) for either of the bands I am in, so I'd preprog/set them for whichever band I was with.    

 

[bnt]

PS: a trick I just discovered: if you set your three presets in slots 1-3 in the Librarian, you can easily get back to them if you get lost on the pedal in Browsing mode:

1. Cycle between 1-3 and turn each knob up in turn
2. Cycle between 1-3 in order and turn each knob down all the way.
3. The result will be presets 1-3 on the three knobs in order.
4. If you have turned only one knob, turn it back down all the way, and it should be back to its correct setting e.g. if 1 and 3 are correct and you turn knob 2, turn it back down all the way to get back to preset 2.

[warwickhunt]

34 minutes ago, bnt said:

PS: a trick I just discovered: if you set your three presets in slots 1-3 in the Librarian, you can easily get back to them if you get lost on the pedal in Browsing mode:

1. Cycle between 1-3 and turn each knob up in turn
2. Cycle between 1-3 in order and turn each knob down all the way.
3. The result will be presets 1-3 on the three knobs in order.
4. If you have turned only one knob, turn it back down all the way, and it should be back to its correct setting e.g. if 1 and 3 are correct and you turn knob 2, turn it back down all the way to get back to preset 2.

 

When I get the pedal I'll get my head around that!  LOL

 

Can you just put 3 presets into the pedal?  I know it holds 20 per slot but can I just put 3 in?  I can load a different three as and when.

 

[bnt]

Just now, warwickhunt said:

Can you just put 3 presets into the pedal?  I know it holds 20 per slot but can I just put 3 in?  I can load a different three as and when.

 

It comes with the 20 slots filled with guitar presets. In the Librarian you can move and overwrite them with others, but you can't delete or disable them as far as I can see. If this was a problem for me, I might fill slots 4-20 with copies of #3, or maybe create a special blank preset with volume set to zero. Let me try that quickly ... it seems to work if I set the noise gate threshold as high as possible, then nothing gets through. I think.

[Woodinblack]

Well, see what you mean by the software. Took about 7 attempts to download it last night, where I kept pausing and restarting it and it would just stop, if there was a straight download it would have downloaded in no time.

Read the quick start guide - I guess it was a long night as it made no sense, I will give it a try today!

[rwillett]

No, the manual is crap, it wasn't you.

 

 

[warwickhunt]

I'm having exactly the same issues right now!  

 

Registered the product and then going in circles trying to access/download stuff!  I haven't even begun to suss how to open the UI to start loading stuff on the pedal!  

[warwickhunt]

I'm going to be putting this through the window in a minute! 

 

Registered, downloaded, pedal plugged into laptop, open Amplitude 5... instant and continuous feedback loop, which I have to shut down straight away!  Totally frustrated with this croc of shyte; it shouldn't be this hard to navigate into a programme and put sounds onto a pedal.