Stub Mandrel Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 19 minutes ago, SteveXFR said: Is it possible to do the foot on the monitor thing with a multi scale 5 string? I would, but modern powered speakers with monitor tilt handles are too wobbly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Stub Mandrel said: I would, but modern powered speakers with monitor tilt handles are too wobbly. Guitarist and I nearly came a cropper with exactly that on Saturday. We went up the front side by side for the guitar solo in The Final Countdown, feet up and planted on a monitor that felt it like to was made of cardboard. Bore no weight whatsoever. Heft-less one might say. I think we managed to style it out 😎 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 19/05/2024 at 18:40, Cosmo Valdemar said: Classic Rock is a very broad term, it could mean Highway To Hell or Won't Get Fooled Again. Warning - Quo is deceptively tricky! Yes but Quo is sugar honey iced tea and simply knowing that is enough to swerve the “problem” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Mmm... Tea... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 You're depping with a band. . . . and you're saying you won't play certain songs? IMO the job we take on when we agree to dep in a band, is to play their set to a level that they don't notice their regular bassist is missing. . . . period. That includes all the songs on the list. Whether we like the numbers or not is irrelevant. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 13 hours ago, SteveXFR said: Is it possible to do the foot on the monitor thing with a multi scale 5 string? Yes. The soundman gets just as cross. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 18 hours ago, chris_b said: You're depping with a band. . . . and you're saying you won't play certain songs? IMO the job we take on when we agree to dep in a band, is to play their set to a level that they don't notice their regular bassist is missing. . . . period. That includes all the songs on the list. Whether we like the numbers or not is irrelevant. I'm not playing unless I'm going to enjoy it. If I don't enjoy then it's work and I don't need more of that unless it pays more than the day job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) While Status Quo songs are only two and half minutes long, and you only have to learn 3 notes, and if it's not a tribute you don't even have to wear double denim. But what most people forget is that cover bands don't like two and half minute songs - there will undoubtedly be extra choruses, extended guitar solos and god forbid, crimes against crimes; - The Satatus Quo Medley. Caroline, Down Down, Rockin' All Over the World plus some obscure number that only the guitarist knows. Edited May 21 by TimR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 A mate of mine, who's a really good drummer with a pretty decent CV, was always a big Quo fan. He was always a bit defensive about it, as a few of us found it quite amusing! He's now got a Status Quo tribute up and gigging, with some good players involved. I'm going to have to go and see them at some point - Roll Over Lay Down (and a few others) were always a guilty pleasure...! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicko Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 On 20/05/2024 at 22:08, SteveXFR said: Is it possible to do the foot on the monitor thing with a multi scale 5 string? As long as you are wearing Spandex anything is possible. In answer to the question my first experience of playing bass in a band was pretty much classic rock - my first gig was using a borrowed bass 2 weeks after joining the band and we did a 2 hour slot. Never really struggled to play something that fits even if I can't actually play the song properly. I'm not actually sure what constitutes classic rock these days - in my head it's the 60s/70s/80s stuff but the average pub set list these days is playing 30 year old songs which surely must be classic by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I joined a newly created, classic rock band, a couple of years ago. I hadn't played that style of music before but knew a lot of the set from my teenage years. It was more difficult for the guitarists than myself but to recreate some of those songs, to a decent standard, wasn't a piece of cake for me. They had a couple of Richie Kotzen tunes in the set, with basslines that were definitely not easy. There was also a Gary Moore, called Wild Frontier, that never repeated itself twice, which took forever to learn. Hopefully the band you're playing with will stick to the AC/DC, Rainbow, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Thin Lizzy end of the classic rock spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Classic rock tends to be album tracks that everyone has heard but no one ever really remembers who the band is or what the song is called. Plus Sweet Home Alabama. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 16 hours ago, TimR said: While Status Quo songs are only two and half minutes long, and you only have to learn 3 notes, and if it's not a tribute you don't even have to wear double denim. But what most people forget is that cover bands don't like two and half minute songs - there will undoubtedly be extra choruses, extended guitar solos and god forbid, crimes against crimes; - The Satatus Quo Medley. Caroline, Down Down, Rockin' All Over the World plus some obscure number that only the guitarist knows. A Point of Order. Rockin' All Over The World is a John Fogerty song, and therefore it is totally legitimate to play it 🙂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, gjones said: I joined a newly created, classic rock band, a couple of years ago. I hadn't played that style of music before but knew a lot of the set from my teenage years. It was more difficult for the guitarists than myself but to recreate some of those songs, to a decent standard, wasn't a piece of cake for me. They had a couple of Richie Kotzen tunes in the set, with basslines that were definitely not easy. There was also a Gary Moore, called Wild Frontier, that never repeated itself twice, which took forever to learn. Hopefully the band you're playing with will stick to the AC/DC, Rainbow, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Thin Lizzy end of the classic rock spectrum. I just want to know which Richie Kotzen songs you were playing in a covers band in a pub?? I wouldn't mind seeing that...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Might be interesting to share some setlists? This was ours for last Saturday, with appended notes... with two exceptions these are songs WE want to play, rather than chosen to please an audience. War Pigs ... (sort of mashup between the original and the shorter Foo's version) White Room What is and What … (only works when you know you have a 'rock' audience. Pressure & Time Wishing Well Cross-Roads Devil Woman All Along The Watchtower Simple Man Black Night Hungry Like the Wolf ... (In the style of Reef's version, but the whole song) Sex Bomb ... (In the style of Mystic Prophecy i.e. 'German power metal band') Paranoid 20th Century Boy We Gotta Get Outta This Place ... (In the style of Alice Cooper's version, but the whole song) Sex on Fire ... (Just to keep everyone happy) Saturday Nights All Right ... (Well it was Tyson v Usyk afterwards, but we love this anyway) Rock and Roll Dakota ... (we're in Wales, at least one Phonics song is obligatory). Sympathy for the Devil Crazy Little Thing Called Love ... (we ran out of time as we'd already gone past the 11.00 curfew) Interesting how 9 songs = 45 minutes, I think we'll fit another one or two in as we get slicker with the changes, this was the first gig for this line-up and only our 3rd gig. Pub's reaction "Thanks guys sounded amazing.. we look forward to having you again. Xx" 🙂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 4 hours ago, peteb said: I just want to know which Richie Kotzen songs you were playing in a covers band in a pub?? I wouldn't mind seeing that...! Fooled Again and Warpaint. We never did play them to an audience, as the band broke up due to the members other commitments. Richie Kotzen plays all the bass on his solo stuff and is pretty darn good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) Ritchie Kotxen = monster . Lucky to see him with the whinery dogs . I have an instrumental,album from him somewhere . May have to give it another listen . Edited May 22 by RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) I saw Kotzen with his solo band in a small club in Leeds about fourteen or fifteen years ago. He was really good, but perhaps not the greatest frontman in the world! Seriously talented though - I reckon he's an even better singer than he is a guitar player! Beware, not all of his albums are great and he does seem to repeat himself a bit (inevitable really when you're putting out as much product as he was at one point). But his good albums are very good (Peace Sign, 40 Deuce, Live in San Paulo, etc) and some of the songwriting is top class. I rather liked the first Mr Big album he was on (Get Over It) as well... Edited May 22 by peteb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 33 minutes ago, peteb said: I reckon he's an even better singer than he is a guitar player! Certainly on a par, I think he has a large dollop of Chris Cornell in his voice, no bad thing IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 3 minutes ago, ezbass said: Certainly on a par, I think he has a large dollop of Chris Cornell in his voice, no bad thing IMO. There are very few finer than Chris was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 minute ago, BreadBin said: There are very few finer than Chris was. His demise, along with Stuart Adamson’s, makes me very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 7 minutes ago, ezbass said: His demise, along with Stuart Adamson’s, makes me very sad. Yup, I'm definitely still not over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 14 minutes ago, ezbass said: Certainly on a par, I think he has a large dollop of Chris Cornell in his voice, no bad thing IMO. Yea, I can see that, with maybe a touch of Glenn Hughes (but without all of the over-singing)... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_S Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 7 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: Sex Bomb ... (In the style of Mystic Prophecy i.e. 'German power metal band') Paranoid I bet that's epic. I just thought you'd listed the Mystic Prophecy version of Paranoid until I actually engaged my eyeballs. We used to play Demon's Blood alongside our own lower-tuned songs and I reckon most people thought it was another original. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I think that playing metal or hard rock is a bit complex than classic rock, so if You played metal and want classic rock - it will not make problems. That is what happened to me - i played a lot of genres before like jazz, funk latin, acid jazz, fusion, classic rock, but could not play good at hard rock rehearsal. Of course - it always depends specially on You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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