Minininjarob Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Nice Matt Freeman interview of Mike Dirnt where he shows his original Gibson G3 and his new Epiphone version. Both really nice guys. Takeaways - wow that Gibson is the definition of road worn, that new Epiphone could be really good, and can Gibson really not make bolt on necks, seems weird. https://youtu.be/VZU1hoTYipY?si=TxtjrN1EGwhcXIMg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Yeah I saw that and thought it was weird that Gibson can’t make bolt on necks anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minininjarob Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 3 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: Yeah I saw that and thought it was weird that Gibson can’t make bolt on necks anymore. You would have thought they’d be chomping at the bit to get a Mike Dirnt signature model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted September 28 Author Share Posted September 28 Just now, Minininjarob said: You would have thought they’d be chomping at the bit to get a Mike Dirnt signature model. You would have thought Gibson would insert wholly sensible course of action. Should be their motto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minininjarob Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 hour ago, neepheid said: You would have thought Gibson would insert wholly sensible course of action. Should be their motto. I’ve heard they are a bit weird but don’t know the specifics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 10 hours ago, Lozz196 said: Yeah I saw that and thought it was weird that Gibson can’t make bolt on necks anymore. The business might have a stance of just producing set necks/neck-through instruments, but I'd take this comment by Dirnt with a pinch of salt. They're more than capable of producing bolt on instruments, they probably just choose not to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 The more I think about this, the angrier I get. If Epiphone was a mate, you'd take them aside and try to talk some sense into them. £929, what the hell are they thinking? How much does it cost to produce a bolt on, single pickup bass these days? Different body shape - big whoop, it's CNC, just get 'em made - it's absolutely no different to any of your other models. I'd go so far as to say the different shaped headstock is the same deal - change the CNC program, how effing hard is that? They have seriously misread the room and are attempting to take people for mugs IMO. When you have market disruptors like Sire going about, producing instruments which I'm quite sure would kick this Grabber's arris in terms of fit, finish and features, at half the price - it's absolutely suicidal pricing. People aren't stupid - they're going to compare and contrast and if they've got half a brain will realise they're being taken for a ride. The Gibsonification of Epiphone is in full swing - I had hoped it wouldn't happen, but it looks like an unwise, premature, and very ham fisted attempt to move Epiphone "upmarket" is happening. It makes me sad. Angry, but ultimately, sad. There's no way in hell I'm buying this Grabber at £929, and because it's a signature bass, the G-3 will be more like £1200. I was so excited by this development when news first broke but Epiphone, you've broken me instead. I'm out. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minininjarob Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 On 29/09/2024 at 08:10, NancyJohnson said: The business might have a stance of just producing set necks/neck-through instruments, but I'd take this comment by Dirnt with a pinch of salt. They're more than capable of producing bolt on instruments, they probably just choose not to. To be fair it’s probably just repeating what he’s been told, he won’t have been to do an inspection of the factory’s manufacturing capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minininjarob Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 1 hour ago, neepheid said: The more I think about this, the angrier I get. If Epiphone was a mate, you'd take them aside and try to talk some sense into them. £929, what the hell are they thinking? How much does it cost to produce a bolt on, single pickup bass these days? Different body shape - big whoop, it's CNC, just get 'em made - it's absolutely no different to any of your other models. I'd go so far as to say the different shaped headstock is the same deal - change the CNC program, how effing hard is that? They have seriously misread the room and are attempting to take people for mugs IMO. When you have market disruptors like Sire going about, producing instruments which I'm quite sure would kick this Grabber's arris in terms of fit, finish and features, at half the price - it's absolutely suicidal pricing. People aren't stupid - they're going to compare and contrast and if they've got half a brain will realise they're being taken for a ride. The Gibsonification of Epiphone is in full swing - I had hoped it wouldn't happen, but it looks like an unwise, premature, and very ham fisted attempt to move Epiphone "upmarket" is happening. It makes me sad. Angry, but ultimately, sad. There's no way in hell I'm buying this Grabber at £929, and because it's a signature bass, the G-3 will be more like £1200. I was so excited by this development when news first broke but Epiphone, you've broken me instead. I'm out. I have to agree with you there, even Fender can do a Dirnt signature model for £1450 (it was less recently) and didn’t overprice the squire version when that came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthumb Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Very overpriced in my opinion for what it is. It makes the Epiphone 64 Thunderbird look excellent value for money being around £100 less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkMohawk Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 11 hours ago, Minininjarob said: To be fair it’s probably just repeating what he’s been told, he won’t have been to do an inspection of the factory’s manufacturing capabilities. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Gibson had tossed the machines they used for bolt-on's, probably in favour of getting their QC department even more effective blinders so they can't see what they're doing. On a slightly more serious note, I'd hazard a guess at it being a directive from on high, that bolts on's aren't 'Gibson' enough for their target audience. I'd say they're leaving the getting new players onto the brand to Epiphone, except with the prices Epiphone are charging these days, that seems more and more unlikely too. Honestly, just a lot of questionable decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Demo's up: My issues still stand, but I can't deny it sounds rather splendid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minininjarob Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 48 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: Demo's up: My issues still stand, but I can't deny it sounds rather splendid. Does sounds rather nice. To my ears not much different from the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Love the coil tap sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ.c Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 I can't un-see that scratch plate. Even if this release was the first of its kind, I'd still question the geometry. It should hug the curve of the lower bout, not stray into it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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