upside downer Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) What will Mr Lydon's take on this be? https://www.vulture.com/article/sex-pistols-reunite-without-johnny-rotten.html Edited June 6 by upside downer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Maybe he's waiting for someone to butter him up? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Like Simon & Garfunkle reuniting without Simon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Yeah I saw this and as much as I’m a fan of the band it’s not for me. No disrespect to Frank, he’s my best mates nephew (tho I’ve never met him) but for me without JR it’s not the Pistols. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetera Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 "Ever feel like you've been cheated?" 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upside downer Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 2 minutes ago, cetera said: "Ever feel like you've been cheated?" "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" C'mon, get it right, us Pistols anoraks will notice 😁 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Ed Tudor-Pole would be spinning in his grave if he had perished. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Soup Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 John is increasingly dismissive of the other's contribution to SP, so he will look at this with scorn no doubt. Just hope Frank can do the songs better than Billy Idol did recently. Two nights at the Bush Hall won't reach many people though.... maybe there'll be something more after. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Yeah JR has recently seemed a bit less tolerant of the others (probably due to the Pistol series), strange though as for me SP were successful due to what all 4 of them brought and I would have thought he would have recognised that. I`m sure Frank will be better than Billy Idol, I watched Generation Sex at Glastonbury and thought they were awful, though the guy who produced our album was at one of their indoor gigs and said it was very good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upside downer Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, Lozz196 said: without JR it’s not the Pistols. This is pretty much how I feel about it. However.... 3 minutes ago, Nail Soup said: Two nights at the Bush Hall won't reach many people though.... maybe there'll be something more after. ...if there were to be more dates to follow, I'm not sure I'd be able to resist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 43 minutes ago, Doctor J said: Ed Tudor-Pole would be spinning in his grave if he had perished. I can hear Bambi spinning from here though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 This seems wrong on so many levels imho . Like him or loathe him , Johnny Rotten is one of the most recognisable front men / women in rock . To replace him is akin to replacing Freddie Mercury with Adam Lambert , although the circumstances were different obviously . Tbh and again imho, I think raw punk like this is for the young and that they are all just grumpy old men who can never get the vibe they originally had . I don't know Frank carter ( I'm out of touch I guess ) , and he may do a good job with them . It seems like a cross between a tribute act , and a cash cow grab. I could be wrong , I could be right . I never went , but heard about the negative vibes regarding the Finsbury Park gigs . Regarding the Billy Idol gig at Glastonbury , I saw that and it was like watching Dick Emery or Freddy Starr . I'd say it was time to give it up and do something low key instead . What, I don't know . Same in a strange way , with David Lee Roth . He needs to stop now . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 The Bush Hall. Is that Shepherd's Bush Empire under a different name ? Haven't been to London gigs for sometime 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetera Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said: The Bush Hall. Is that Shepherd's Bush Empire under a different name ? Haven't been to London gigs for sometime 😬 Nope, different smaller venue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madshadows Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Seems more like the Ex Pistols 😛 John 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I was 4 when the Pistols were around, so can't pretend I am a dyed in the wool '77 punk but I have been a fan for 4 decades. I know it will really upset a lot of fans but personally I am okay with it. Lots of bands go out with one member. They are jobbing musicians who got ripped off at the time so if they want to make some money for themselves, it doesn't bother me. My take is that if you don't like it, don't go. Loads of people moaned in the 90s when they reformed and I don't think it tarnished their reputation longer term. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 that's like Motörhead without Lemmy! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 46 minutes ago, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said: To replace him is akin to replacing Freddie Mercury with Adam Lambert, although the circumstances were different obviously Perhaps they know something we don't about JL's current life expectancy? 😬 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meterman Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) I remember buying the “Rock And Roll Swindle” single on 7” when it came out, with the American Express picture sleeve, and although I knew the band had split (and PiL were at least a year into their career by then) the fact that John Lydon wasn’t singing on it didn’t bother me, I just liked the record. Not as much as “Public Image” but enough to spend some pocket money on it. I’ve met Frank Carter a few times when he was in Gallows (one of my mates did guitar tech for them) and I thought he was a really nice, thoughtful, actually fairly quietly spoken individual. And he could certainly give it some! But I’m not sure he’d be my first choice to stand in for John Lydon. I’d prefer to see the Pistols have an all-star band, where various singers come on and do a turn for each different song. Maybe Iggy, Siouxsie, or Spizz or Steve Ignorant and some of the old guard could do some, and some newer faces could do some too. My personal choice would have been Malcolm Owen from The Ruts, but that’s not possible, sadly. Edited June 6 by meterman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I'd rather see the Sex Pistols without Lydon than not at all, which seem to be the alternative, similar situation to the Undertones without Fergal Sharkey, I loved their recent gigs I've been too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 And what about Sid Vicious? I think they should dig him up and animate his corpse with AI, can't possibly need to be too advanced to nail it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upside downer Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, Baloney Balderdash said: And what about Sid Vicious? I think they should dig him up and animate his corpse with AI, can't possibly need to be too advanced to nail it. Difficult to dig him up, he was cremated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, upside downer said: Difficult to dig him up, he was cremated. Well, I think they still ought to dig someone up and animate their corpse. Edited June 6 by Baloney Balderdash 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybone Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 15 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said: And what about Sid Vicious? I think they should dig him up and animate his corpse with AI, can't possibly need to be too advanced to nail it. "Disgrace to the Corpse of Sid" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meterman Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Actually I wish Poly Styrene was still alive, her singing voice would have worked with the Pistols behind her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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