LukeFRC Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 so hold on a moment.... This is working on at least two levels isn't it? 1 There's an effects engine underneath that can do everything all at the same time if you want.... 2 And then the ability to assign what all the controls do on that patch... 3 and then the middle preset knob which I guess is preset that works as a starting place for "here's your crush tones", "here's your vinyl" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisisswanbon Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Initial impressions aren't what I'd hoped for (although I don't know what I'd hoped for 🤔) and im not sure how useful it is... but I LOVE the new direction of the one series pedals. Regardless of what the pedal does or doesn't do, what a huge upgrade this is in usability! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) ... Edited June 26 by lidl e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 u ok hun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 6 minutes ago, LukeFRC said: u ok hun? I got stuck in a loop!! I'm quite excitable... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 21 minutes ago, LukeFRC said: so hold on a moment.... This is working on at least two levels isn't it? 1 There's an effects engine underneath that can do everything all at the same time if you want.... 2 And then the ability to assign what all the controls do on that patch... 3 and then the middle preset knob which I guess is preset that works as a starting place for "here's your crush tones", "here's your vinyl" The middle knob is much like the toggle switch on the other pedals: it’s populated with some well thought-out starting points which you can then tweak and save to one of the preset slots. However, last time I tried, those 7 bases are fully replaceable too so you can design your own starting points too. Time-based effects are only one at a time, so delay or chorus or reverb. The other stuff is mostly available together. There is something to do with the glitch section that has a minor limitation, but I forget what that is exactly. And yes, all controls are fully assignable to be whatever you want. There are two soft control sections, each of which allows a knob or footswitch (and hopefully in an update the bandwidth toggle switch too) to control up to three different parameters with customisable ranges (both in parameter values and to which portion of the knob travel it is assigned). It’s so powerful. Definitely wish the C4 had some of this ability. Hopefully an updated/revised version will bring some of this innovation in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 (edited) 24 minutes ago, thisisswanbon said: Initial impressions aren't what I'd hoped for (although I don't know what I'd hoped for 🤔) and im not sure how useful it is... but I LOVE the new direction of the one series pedals. Regardless of what the pedal does or doesn't do, what a huge upgrade this is in usability! I’m not into glitch/lo-fi at all but I love this and it’s staying for everything else it does. Worth it just for the lowpass filter on its own. Edited June 26 by Quatschmacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 As a seld confessed filterholic and glitch tape saturation fan and a fanboy of the sa soundblox series. I'm defo getting one of these. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Copying this from a TB post I made earlier: I think this may be the best thing SA has made to date, this is coming from someone who loves the C4 very much. (I ordered that pedal as soon as it was announced and spent a lot of time getting right inside it.) One thing I really like about the new pedal is the level of hands-on control, which, for me, recaptures the immediacy of the Soundblox 2 series; I loved those and the Manta is what got me into Source Audio pedals in the first place. With the move to One Series, lots of deeper possibilities opened up via the editor software, but at the expense of a loss of some of the immediacy and stand-alone nature of the SB2 series. This new pedal is a kind of marriage between the two ways of interacting: there’s all the depth and tweakability of the One Series pedals, but you can set up or use a few presets (hell, even just a single preset) that have so much variation possible via the panel controls alone that you’d never need to dig into the editor if you didn’t want to. However, if you do want to explore, there’s a whole universe of sound in there, and this pedal invites exploration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kev Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, lidl e said: This is cool I can't believe this exists 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Kev said: I can't believe this exists 😅 I can make you a bad cable emulator for a 10'er if you are interested? No need for circumstantial expensive boxes or anything. Directly build into the cable and all! Edited June 26 by Baloney Balderdash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 I posted this elsewhere a while ago but couldn't say what it was. Here's Artifakt and Mutron Microtron IV side by side; can you tell which is which? Audio-822.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 41 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said: I posted this elsewhere a while ago but couldn't say what it was. Here's Artifakt and Mutron Microtron IV side by side; can you tell which is which? Audio-822.mp3 That's impressive. I'll stick my neck out and say the Mutron was first, but very good. Its a wonder Source Audio don't go down a proper multi effects processor route, as they seem to nail a lot of stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 14 minutes ago, Kev said: That's impressive. I'll stick my neck out and say the Mutron was first, but very good. Its a wonder Source Audio don't go down a proper multi effects processor route, as they seem to nail a lot of stuff. Thanks for being the first to venture a guess. Curious as to what pushed you to that choice; do tell. That recording was done before I better matched the EQ, as it was non-functional at that point. I think they are even closer now. The only difference was a slight difference in envelope response at different dynamics, mostly in the decay time. Sadly I don’t have the MuTron any more to do a new more accurate comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 10 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said: Thanks for being the first to venture a guess. Curious as to what pushed you to that choice; do tell. That recording was done before I better matched the EQ, as it was non-functional at that point. I think they are even closer now. The only difference was a slight difference in envelope response at different dynamics, mostly in the decay time. Sadly I don’t have the MuTron any more to do a new more accurate comparison. Its the subtleties of how the envelope sounds like it is responding to your playing, it feels more natural in the first half...but quite pronounced as well, so it could easily be a digital simulation of that subtlety 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kev said: Its the subtleties of how the envelope sounds like it is responding to your playing, it feels more natural in the first half...but quite pronounced as well, so it could easily be a digital simulation of that subtlety 😅 Artifakt’s envelope is plenty responsive too. A fairer test would have been to record a clean audio signal and use the same recording to trigger each pedal; there’s no guarantee of my playing each clip with exactly the same dynamics. Edited June 26 by Quatschmacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumOne Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 7 hours ago, Quatschmacher said: Definitely wish the C4 had some of this ability. Hopefully an updated/revised version will bring some of this innovation in. A C4 in this new hardware would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 18 hours ago, Killerfridge said: I reckon paired with the Atlas you can get pretty close to the VulfPressor I've been looking for that sound in a pedal for ages. I think the Fairfield 'The Accountant' gets very close indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 Well this has made my day. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 https://www.andertons.co.uk/source-audio-artifakt-lofi-elements--modulatio-reverb-bit-reduction-and-filter-pedal/?search_query=Artifakt £349 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidl e Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 350 quid. That's a pretty heavy price tag. Seems quite high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 23 minutes ago, lidl e said: 350 quid. That's a pretty heavy price tag. Seems quite high. Not really for everything it does. It’s also a new custom design so there’s extra costs involved there. And stuff is always more expensive at launch. Wasn’t EQ2 (another custom design) around £299 at launch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Still, £95 more than a Future Impact V4 as a point of reference, does seem a tad pricey?? Would love to spend some time with one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Kev said: Still, £95 more than a Future Impact V4 as a point of reference, does seem a tad pricey?? Would love to spend some time with one though. Apples and oranges though really… SA connectivity is more modern with USB and TRS MIDI, dedicated expression input, stereo I/O, fully assignable panel controls and their very slick user preset platform; I’m sure some of this price reflects the huge financial investment they’ve put into Neuro 3 over the past couple of years, which is free to end users. Edited June 27 by Quatschmacher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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