Eight Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Either I'm going mental, my tuner has already, or the rest of guitar playing internet has been for some time. Can someone check this out for me - if you're with your bass it should only take a sec. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYNYb30nxU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYNYb30nxU[/url] Main riff - is supposed to be something like this in standard tuning [code]G|-----------------------------------------| D|-----------------------------------------| A|-----0-2-2--2-----2-2-0-0---0-2-4-0------| x3 E|--2-----------0-0---------4--------------|[/code] Except... I start playing along to the YouTube clip and find I'm a semitone low. Shifting up and starting on the G sounds right to me... but the damn internet has me doubting. Can someone let me know if I have cloth ears or my tuner is f**ked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_u_y_* Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 What tuner do you have? Some have a function where you can recalibrate the notes to accomodate when you play with a horn player who is slightly out, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 It's a sh*tty Planet Waves Chordmaster thing with built in tuner and metronome. A is set to 440Hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I make it starts on G. Where did you get the information from that says it starts a semi-tone lower? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) www.ultimate-guitar.com - so not a very reliable source. Except somewhere I have the Guitar World transcription of this and I'm pretty sure the main riff was the same as the tab posted. Unless YouTube has repitched the video??? Edit: Cheers Bassman, I'm glad its not my ears then. Edited May 21, 2009 by Eight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'm wondering if the original recording might have been pitch shifted to give old Justins falsetto vocals a helping hand...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Here they are playing it live [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFtywrOTnHw&feature=related"]Darkness on Later With Jools[/url] and it's a semi-tone lower than the previously posted video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Wish I could find my copy of the album. But yeah, looks like either YouTube has done something or maybe they did pitch shift it for the music video. At least I'll sleep tonight without thinking about buying a new tuner or that my ears are shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Cheers guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepurpleblob Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Eight' post='494598' date='May 21 2009, 07:50 PM']Either I'm going mental, my tuner has already, or the rest of guitar playing internet has been for some time. Can someone check this out for me - if you're with your bass it should only take a sec. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYNYb30nxU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYNYb30nxU[/url] Main riff - is supposed to be something like this in standard tuning [code]G|-----------------------------------------| D|-----------------------------------------| A|-----0-2-2--2-----2-2-0-0---0-2-4-0------| x3 E|--2-----------0-0---------4--------------|[/code] Except... I start playing along to the YouTube clip and find I'm a semitone low. Shifting up and starting on the G sounds right to me... but the damn internet has me doubting. Can someone let me know if I have cloth ears or my tuner is f**ked.[/quote] I wouldn't always assume that a band plays "standard (A=440) pitch". Radiohead seem a good example of a band who can't afford to buy a tuner between them. Actually.... I've just realised that the song you are asking about was the first song I ever played live on the bass. Don't remember it at all now though! Edited May 22, 2009 by thepurpleblob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenochrome Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Easy - the single/video version was released in a different tuning to the album version. I don't know if it's a different recording or pitch-shifted. There's a few songs where the single is at a different pitch and/or tempo to the album version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 AAAH - the wonders of tabulation!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) I can't listen to any of the links (I'm at work), but my band plays this with the riff starting on Fsharp - and whenever I rehearse to the single version it sounds in tune to me! And the tab looks like the way I play it as well! Edited May 22, 2009 by simon1964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbass Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 We play it in F# too Take a listen if you like: [url="http://www.coaster-music.co.uk/page13.htm"]http://www.coaster-music.co.uk/page13.htm[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdragon Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 F# for me too. I play along to a cd i have and it sounds ok to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I also play F# as it sounds correct when listening to the CD version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) [quote name='bilbo230763' post='495041' date='May 22 2009, 12:08 PM']AAAH - the wonders of tabulation!! [/quote] Ok yes, I could probably have played it by ear (or should have tried). But it was just a tune I felt like playing once or twice and I'm not so skilled that I could do it all by ear (hey I'm a newb) without spending ages figuring it all out. I didn't really think that the YouTube clip might be different from the version everyone had used for their transcriptions so the whole thing started to get under my skin. Bands should release only one version of a song - and always in the same key. Looks like F# is the "proper" one. Edited May 22, 2009 by Eight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHUFC BASS Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Funny thing happened the other day. I had an audition for a band who are quite well known on the punk scene, they have a few CDs out etc. Anyway they asked me to learn ten songs in a week which I did, but I didn't have two of the songs. I downloaded them off the web but whoever recorded them used a record player to convert them from into an MP3. I didn't think this was a problem and duly learned these songs. When it came to playing them at the audition I was a semitone out - and I had been using open strings on my version. They off-handly told me everything was a semi-tome lower and began to count in again. Cue manic transposing on the spot which thankfully worked and I didn't bother arguing with them about the key as they were the ones who wrote the songs in the first place. For the life of me I couldn't work out how I had much such a bad error until it dawned on me that the record player speed was slight slow and as a result altered the pitch slightly. I've also noticed this will MP3s that have been sampled at various different rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_D Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 We used to play Layla by Derek and the Dominoes. When I was learning it I found 3 different versions of it. C# D and D#. I ended up learning all 3 cause I couldnt get a hold of our guitarist to see which key he was learning it in! I dont even think it was a sampling error or anything. And by used to play it I mean played it about 3 times live cause our guitarist hates clapton! That was fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Eight' post='494598' date='May 21 2009, 07:50 PM']Either I'm going mental, my tuner has already, or the rest of guitar playing internet has been for some time. Except... I start playing along to the YouTube clip and find I'm a semitone low. Shifting up and starting on the G sounds right to me... but the damn internet has me doubting. Can someone let me know if I have cloth ears or my tuner is f**ked.[/quote] We do it in F# which i believe is the recorded key so i would say thats right. ive not gone over it recently but i would say the tab is in the right key. Youtube can be very misleading IME. EDIT: Sorry, just seen all the other posts so mine was pointless. Edited May 22, 2009 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe_BillySheehan Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 [quote name='bassman2790' post='494611' date='May 21 2009, 08:06 PM']I make it starts on G. Where did you get the information from that says it starts a semi-tone lower?[/quote] i got that too. G Z x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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