Adding an IR Loader - where to put it in the signal chain

[glassmoon]

Hi all,

 

Can I ask a noobie question please.... my band leader went and sprung for me, a Behringer P2 belt unit and a TC IRL pedal so I don't have to schlep my rig around - and to keep the stage volume down as much as possible.  I alreay have good IEMs, so we ar off to the races, methinks....

Currently, I run bass > EBS MicroBass 3 + FX Loop: Zoom MS-60b ... and I take a DI from the EBS..

From what I understand, the IRL should be last in the signal path, but if that is so, then I would loose the balance output from the XLR.

Will the IRL work in the FX loop?  Zoom into TCE and back into EBS?  Or should I just take a jack to jack from the IRL to the desk?

 

Failing all that... I really should've just got the new 60b+, right?

 

Many thanks in advance

Julian aka Glassmoon

[glassmoon]

Anyone?  Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeez?

[BigRedX]

What is doing your IR?

 

And what are you adding with your IR? I assume it's just a cab since your EBS is essentially an amp. Do you really need it?

Edited August 12, 2024 by BigRedX

[glassmoon]

Hey @BigRedX

 

Well, that is my thinking too... I've never used one before when I have used IEMS.  I never knew what the desk guys added, but it wasn't coming from me at all.

The EBS is my pre-amp and my de facto tone.  From what I hear, the IRL is just to emulate a cab - or an amp and a cab.  

I guess, is it that important to have that running?  I dunno.  I like my Ashdown rig... not sure I'd want whatever was available.. or make my own (gosh knows how I'd even go about thinking of starting that exercise).

 

So, the pedal is there for my use... but how will I even test it, other than at a rehearsal or live?

 

I guess having it for free, and the possibility that it makes my bass sound warmer, is a plus.. but is putting it in the FX loop, after the FX, a good/bad/clever/dumbass thing to do?

 

Anyway - thanks for responding  

[BigRedX]

Personally I wouldn't bother with an IR. If your EBS MicroBass is essentially your sound and you are happy with what you can hear in your IMEs already then leave the set up as it is.

 

IMO cabs are the sonic weak link in most bassists signal chain and if you can dispense with them you'll probably sound much better FoH. I would only bother with IRs if you normally use an amp with a an all-valve power section and cabs that add a very obvious colouration to your sound, in which case you'll need to be able to capture exactly your setup to produce a custom IR. If that doesn't apply or you can't do it, then leave it alone.

[glassmoon]

1 hour ago, BigRedX said:

Personally I wouldn't bother with an IR. If your EBS MicroBass is essentially your sound and you are happy with what you can hear in your IMEs already then leave the set up as it is.

 

IMO cabs are the sonic weak link in most bassists signal chain and if you can dispense with them you'll probably sound much better FoH. I would only bother with IRs if you normally use an amp with a an all-valve power section and cabs that add a very obvious colouration to your sound, in which case you'll need to be able to capture exactly your setup to produce a custom IR. If that doesn't apply or you can't do it, then leave it alone.

Cheers mate - I'm leaning towards that actually