Post-It Notes / Usernames in sales pics

[StingRayBoy42]

What's the weight of the Post-It please?

[toneknob]

  On 16/08/2024 at 13:48, AndyTravis said:

coincidentally…this item is for sale…

 

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Is the pedal included?

[bass_dinger]

  On 17/08/2024 at 09:58, Bolo said:

How much for the beard?

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Is the beard good for metal?

[AndyTravis]

  On 17/08/2024 at 09:58, Bolo said:

How much for the beard?

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£4.59 and a copy of Ladybird’s rumplestiltskin…

[AndyTravis]

  On 17/08/2024 at 12:52, bass_dinger said:

Is the beard good for metal?

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Yes. It’s based in copper.

 

whut.

[MrDaveTheBass]

  On 16/08/2024 at 12:58, JoeEvans said:

It would also stop scammers from using the delicious, borderline pornographic pics of desirable basses often found here.

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Are we supposed to stick the post-it notes over our bass's naughty bits to protect their modesty? 

 

And where exactly are a bass's naughty bits?

Edited August 20, 2024 by MrDaveTheBass

[miles'tone]

1962 P Bass for sale. All original except for the word "FUNK" written on the heel. 

Pricedrop - £30,000 this weekend only. Swiss Bank transfer preferred. 

Look, it's me. Honest.

No time wasters or fuzz.

Cheers. 

 

 

 

 

[Richard R]

Happy to go along with this, it's a sensible trade-off.

 

Pretty much any system for guaranteeing buyer/seller ID can be thwarted with enough effort. This is a small amount of effort with (from the anecdotal experience of the air rifle forum) a reasonable success rate.

If BC decided to introduce full financial services Know Your Customer identification processes with passports and proof-of-life photgraphs then that would be more secure, but too inconvenient for most users.

[LukeFRC]

  On 16/08/2024 at 08:34, ped said:

 

Not sure I understand, I thought you were making one?

 

Anyway here's one I posted in the 'announcement' which says about placing it somewhere it can't be cropped out, etc.

 

Either way, I think a venn diagram of photoshop experts and online bass scammers will have very little overlap, and anything we can do to make it less convenient, the better. 

 

 

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I imagine the frog guy on the headstock does the same thing too

Edited August 23, 2024 by LukeFRC

[Dood]

  On 23/08/2024 at 07:00, LukeFRC said:

I imagine the frog guy on the headstock does the same thing too

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Actually, that’s not a bad idea! I was once gifted a Lego ‘Dood’. I might add him to all of my sale posts too. (The likeness is uncanny 🤦🏻😂 )

 

 

[jrixn1]

  On 15/08/2024 at 09:02, ped said:

another way to ensure listings can be verified as genuine and it will prevent people using cloned pictures from other sites.

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A Post-it under the strings is a good idea. But I've noticed that some sellers have instead started adding watermarks, which doesn't help verify a listing as genuine, since anyone can watermark any photo.

[Woodinblack]

  On 17/09/2024 at 12:56, jrixn1 said:

 

A Post-it under the strings is a good idea. But I've noticed that some sellers have instead started adding watermarks, which doesn't help verify a listing as genuine, since anyone can watermark any photo.

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But it is hard to unwatermark a photo that is watermarked

[SamIAm]

  On 24/08/2024 at 10:48, Dood said:

Actually, that’s not a bad idea! I was once gifted a Lego ‘Dood’. I might add him to all of my sale posts too. (The likeness is uncanny 🤦🏻😂 )

 

 

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I like this idea!

Sam x

[jrixn1]

  On 17/09/2024 at 16:44, Woodinblack said:

But it is hard to unwatermark a photo that is watermarked

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AI can remove watermarks with some success.

 

However, the point is that it's zero cost and zero effort to add a watermark to an image stolen off the internet, so it shouldn't give a potential buyer any more reassurance that the photos were yours in the first place.  Whereas photoshopping a Post-it note does require some time and ability, so a marketplace post with a Post-it does give the potential buyer some reassurance (not 100%, but some).

[ped]

  On 17/09/2024 at 19:00, jrixn1 said:

 

AI can remove watermarks with some success.

 

However, the point is that it's zero cost and zero effort to add a watermark to an image stolen off the internet, so it shouldn't give a potential buyer any more reassurance that the photos were yours in the first place.  Whereas photoshopping a Post-it note does require some time and ability, so a marketplace post with a Post-it does give the potential buyer some reassurance (not 100%, but some).

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Again, it’s about making it harder. Would a scammer bother removing a watermark when they could just use a different picture? Probably not. 

[jrixn1]

  On 17/09/2024 at 19:05, ped said:

Again, it’s about making it harder. Would a scammer bother removing a watermark when they could just use a different picture? Probably not. 

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I'm not suggesting that a scammer will unwatermark an image.  Your post says you want to ensure listings can be verified as genuine and prevent people using cloned pictures from other sites - I'm saying watermarking doesn't do that, and in the worst case it can give false assurance.  How much more confident are you that I own this Fodera now that I've watermarked it, versus if it had no watermark in the first place?

 

[LukeFRC]

  On 17/09/2024 at 19:28, jrixn1 said:

 

I'm not suggesting that a scammer will unwatermark an image.  Your post says you want to ensure listings can be verified as genuine and prevent people using cloned pictures from other sites - I'm saying watermarking doesn't do that, and in the worst case it can give false assurance.  How much more confident are you that I own this Fodera now that I've watermarked it, versus if it had no watermark in the first place?

 

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Nice bass, but I'm not buying anything off a man who uses a drop shadow like that. Sorry. 

[Woodinblack]

  On 17/09/2024 at 19:28, jrixn1 said:

I'm not suggesting that a scammer will unwatermark an image.  Your post says you want to ensure listings can be verified as genuine and prevent people using cloned pictures from other sites - I'm saying watermarking doesn't do that, and in the worst case it can give false assurance.  How much more confident are you that I own this Fodera now that I've watermarked it, versus if it had no watermark in the first place?

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Neither watermarking or using a post-it show you own the bass. It is about not having your images taken and used somewhere else. The trust needs to come from somewhere else

[Stub Mandrel]

On a forum I'm involved with the simple approach of banning the pisting of ads until your first post had been approved by a mod hugely reduced scams.

 

Must scammers know nothing of the subject...

[Woodinblack]

  On 17/09/2024 at 22:57, Stub Mandrel said:

On a forum I'm involved with the simple approach of banning the pisting of ads until your first post had been approved by a mod hugely reduced scams.

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True, less pisting is good.

[bass_dinger]

  On 17/09/2024 at 23:17, Woodinblack said:

 

True, less pisting is good.

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At times, I think that the whole thread has gone off-piste.

 

But I love basschat for that.

[Rosie C]

  On 24/08/2024 at 10:48, Dood said:

Actually, that’s not a bad idea! I was once gifted a Lego ‘Dood’. I might add him to all of my sale posts too. (The likeness is uncanny 🤦🏻😂 )

 

 

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Likewise, on re-starting studies at the Open University I received a Playmobile lookalike folk musician (right hand side, playing 'recorder'). Henceforth any item I advertise without my mini-me in the photo will be FAKE! 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2024 by Rosie C

[Len_derby]

A grateful client turned me into a key ring.

 

 

[Downunderwonder]

  On 17/09/2024 at 22:57, Stub Mandrel said:

On a forum I'm involved with the simple approach of banning the pisting of ads until your first post had been approved by a mod hugely reduced scams.

 

Must scammers know nothing of the subject...

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That's a good start.

[ped]

  On 18/09/2024 at 08:33, Downunderwonder said:

That's a good start.

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That's a minefield, because we don't have the capacity to do due diligence that should be the buyer's responsibility. If we allowed an ad that turned out to be a scam, would that be our fault?