StingRayBoy42 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 What's the weight of the Post-It please? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 21 hours ago, AndyTravis said: coincidentally…this item is for sale… Is the pedal included? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_dinger Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 2 hours ago, Bolo said: How much for the beard? Is the beard good for metal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 3 hours ago, Bolo said: How much for the beard? £4.59 and a copy of Ladybird’s rumplestiltskin… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 55 minutes ago, bass_dinger said: Is the beard good for metal? Yes. It’s based in copper. whut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDaveTheBass Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) On 16/08/2024 at 13:58, JoeEvans said: It would also stop scammers from using the delicious, borderline pornographic pics of desirable basses often found here. Are we supposed to stick the post-it notes over our bass's naughty bits to protect their modesty? And where exactly are a bass's naughty bits? Edited August 20 by MrDaveTheBass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1962 P Bass for sale. All original except for the word "FUNK" written on the heel. Pricedrop - £30,000 this weekend only. Swiss Bank transfer preferred. Look, it's me. Honest. No time wasters or fuzz. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard R Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Happy to go along with this, it's a sensible trade-off. Pretty much any system for guaranteeing buyer/seller ID can be thwarted with enough effort. This is a small amount of effort with (from the anecdotal experience of the air rifle forum) a reasonable success rate. If BC decided to introduce full financial services Know Your Customer identification processes with passports and proof-of-life photgraphs then that would be more secure, but too inconvenient for most users. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) On 16/08/2024 at 09:34, ped said: Not sure I understand, I thought you were making one? Anyway here's one I posted in the 'announcement' which says about placing it somewhere it can't be cropped out, etc. Either way, I think a venn diagram of photoshop experts and online bass scammers will have very little overlap, and anything we can do to make it less convenient, the better. I imagine the frog guy on the headstock does the same thing too Edited August 23 by LukeFRC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 On 23/08/2024 at 08:00, LukeFRC said: I imagine the frog guy on the headstock does the same thing too Actually, that’s not a bad idea! I was once gifted a Lego ‘Dood’. I might add him to all of my sale posts too. (The likeness is uncanny 🤦🏻😂 ) 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted Tuesday at 12:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:56 On 15/08/2024 at 10:02, ped said: another way to ensure listings can be verified as genuine and it will prevent people using cloned pictures from other sites. A Post-it under the strings is a good idea. But I've noticed that some sellers have instead started adding watermarks, which doesn't help verify a listing as genuine, since anyone can watermark any photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted Tuesday at 16:44 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:44 3 hours ago, jrixn1 said: A Post-it under the strings is a good idea. But I've noticed that some sellers have instead started adding watermarks, which doesn't help verify a listing as genuine, since anyone can watermark any photo. But it is hard to unwatermark a photo that is watermarked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamIAm Posted Tuesday at 17:05 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:05 On 24/08/2024 at 11:48, Dood said: Actually, that’s not a bad idea! I was once gifted a Lego ‘Dood’. I might add him to all of my sale posts too. (The likeness is uncanny 🤦🏻😂 ) I like this idea! Sam x 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted Tuesday at 19:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:00 2 hours ago, Woodinblack said: But it is hard to unwatermark a photo that is watermarked AI can remove watermarks with some success. However, the point is that it's zero cost and zero effort to add a watermark to an image stolen off the internet, so it shouldn't give a potential buyer any more reassurance that the photos were yours in the first place. Whereas photoshopping a Post-it note does require some time and ability, so a marketplace post with a Post-it does give the potential buyer some reassurance (not 100%, but some). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted Tuesday at 19:05 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 19:05 4 minutes ago, jrixn1 said: AI can remove watermarks with some success. However, the point is that it's zero cost and zero effort to add a watermark to an image stolen off the internet, so it shouldn't give a potential buyer any more reassurance that the photos were yours in the first place. Whereas photoshopping a Post-it note does require some time and ability, so a marketplace post with a Post-it does give the potential buyer some reassurance (not 100%, but some). Again, it’s about making it harder. Would a scammer bother removing a watermark when they could just use a different picture? Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted Tuesday at 19:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:28 21 minutes ago, ped said: Again, it’s about making it harder. Would a scammer bother removing a watermark when they could just use a different picture? Probably not. I'm not suggesting that a scammer will unwatermark an image. Your post says you want to ensure listings can be verified as genuine and prevent people using cloned pictures from other sites - I'm saying watermarking doesn't do that, and in the worst case it can give false assurance. How much more confident are you that I own this Fodera now that I've watermarked it, versus if it had no watermark in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted Tuesday at 20:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:56 1 hour ago, jrixn1 said: I'm not suggesting that a scammer will unwatermark an image. Your post says you want to ensure listings can be verified as genuine and prevent people using cloned pictures from other sites - I'm saying watermarking doesn't do that, and in the worst case it can give false assurance. How much more confident are you that I own this Fodera now that I've watermarked it, versus if it had no watermark in the first place? Nice bass, but I'm not buying anything off a man who uses a drop shadow like that. Sorry. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted Tuesday at 22:33 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:33 3 hours ago, jrixn1 said: I'm not suggesting that a scammer will unwatermark an image. Your post says you want to ensure listings can be verified as genuine and prevent people using cloned pictures from other sites - I'm saying watermarking doesn't do that, and in the worst case it can give false assurance. How much more confident are you that I own this Fodera now that I've watermarked it, versus if it had no watermark in the first place? Neither watermarking or using a post-it show you own the bass. It is about not having your images taken and used somewhere else. The trust needs to come from somewhere else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted Tuesday at 22:57 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:57 On a forum I'm involved with the simple approach of banning the pisting of ads until your first post had been approved by a mod hugely reduced scams. Must scammers know nothing of the subject... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted Tuesday at 23:17 Share Posted Tuesday at 23:17 19 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: On a forum I'm involved with the simple approach of banning the pisting of ads until your first post had been approved by a mod hugely reduced scams. True, less pisting is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_dinger Posted Tuesday at 23:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 23:41 19 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: True, less pisting is good. At times, I think that the whole thread has gone off-piste. But I love basschat for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie C Posted Wednesday at 08:21 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:21 (edited) On 24/08/2024 at 11:48, Dood said: Actually, that’s not a bad idea! I was once gifted a Lego ‘Dood’. I might add him to all of my sale posts too. (The likeness is uncanny 🤦🏻😂 ) Likewise, on re-starting studies at the Open University I received a Playmobile lookalike folk musician (right hand side, playing 'recorder'). Henceforth any item I advertise without my mini-me in the photo will be FAKE! Edited Wednesday at 08:22 by Rosie C 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_derby Posted Wednesday at 08:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:30 A grateful client turned me into a key ring. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted Wednesday at 08:33 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:33 9 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: On a forum I'm involved with the simple approach of banning the pisting of ads until your first post had been approved by a mod hugely reduced scams. Must scammers know nothing of the subject... That's a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted Wednesday at 08:40 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 08:40 5 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said: That's a good start. That's a minefield, because we don't have the capacity to do due diligence that should be the buyer's responsibility. If we allowed an ad that turned out to be a scam, would that be our fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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