BassBeast Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 But would a DI (or preamp) make any discernible difference in a bedroom setup? 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 10 minutes ago, BassBeast said: But would a DI (or preamp) make any discernible difference in a bedroom setup? 😇 Not particularly! I use a DI at home to go into my xr18, but that also has a high impedance input so it's not necessary. As for a preamp, I think the most flexible I had was the TC Electronic Spectra Drive. 4 band EQ but the clever bit is a toneprint enabled tube drive and compressor which means you have access to loads of overdrive and compressor types. Oh, it has a built in DI as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonK Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 20 minutes ago, BassBeast said: But would a DI (or preamp) make any discernible difference in a bedroom setup? 😇 Might be worth just noting that many preamp pedals have a "DI" function built in, which is essentially a transformer that allows a balanced signal to be sent to a mixing desk for FOH/recording. The preamp circuit is separate from the DI circuit on most pedals/amps, and indeed there is often a button to allow the DI to be before or after the preamp. The aim of a DI is to send your signal somewhere else with a hint of colour (as others have noted) whereas a preamp is a slightly more agressive thing to have in your signal path as it's aim is to colour your tone. Reading this thread so far, I think it's probably a preamp rather than a DI that you are after. There are many available, at the moment I'm using a Genzler which is pretty punchy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBeast Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 2 hours ago, SimonK said: Might be worth just noting that many preamp pedals have a "DI" function built in, which is essentially a transformer that allows a balanced signal to be sent to a mixing desk for FOH/recording. The preamp circuit is separate from the DI circuit on most pedals/amps, and indeed there is often a button to allow the DI to be before or after the preamp. The aim of a DI is to send your signal somewhere else with a hint of colour (as others have noted) whereas a preamp is a slightly more agressive thing to have in your signal path as it's aim is to colour your tone. Reading this thread so far, I think it's probably a preamp rather than a DI that you are after. There are many available, at the moment I'm using a Genzler which is pretty punchy. Seems to me, lots of folks change their pre amp pedals as if it’s an experimental game. This Genzler: do I have need to compare it to a SansAmp or others? All these options is driving me bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonK Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 4 minutes ago, BassBeast said: Seems to me, lots of folks change their pre amp pedals as if it’s an experimental game. This Genzler: do I have need to compare it to a SansAmp or others? All these options is driving me bonkers. ...many of us think this is where the fun is - also changing a preamp pedal is cheaper than changing your amp! I went for the Genzler because I have an old Genz-Benz head and really like the sound. From watching these things for a few years it does seem that the SanAmp routinely gets the best reviews by the most people - it's close to being an industry standard. So if I wasn't prejudiced in other ways, and couldn't listen to anything, I would get a SanAmp bass driver. Mind you if it is punchyness you are specifically after have you changed your strings recently? It's amazing how a new set of strings has more of an effect on tone than anything else (albeit strings are now so expensive they're not far off a new pedal)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBeast Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 8 minutes ago, SimonK said: ...many of us think this is where the fun is - also changing a preamp pedal is cheaper than changing your amp! I went for the Genzler because I have an old Genz-Benz head and really like the sound. From watching these things for a few years it does seem that the SanAmp routinely gets the best reviews by the most people - it's close to being an industry standard. So if I wasn't prejudiced in other ways, and couldn't listen to anything, I would get a SanAmp bass driver. Mind you if it is punchyness you are specifically after have you changed your strings recently? It's amazing how a new set of strings has more of an effect on tone than anything else (albeit strings are now so expensive they're not far off a new pedal)! I have changed them quite recently yes. I’ve never owned Pre amp. Not sure I need or want one. 2 hours ago, SimonK said: Might be worth just noting that many preamp pedals have a "DI" function built in, which is essentially a transformer that allows a balanced signal to be sent to a mixing desk for FOH/recording. The preamp circuit is separate from the DI circuit on most pedals/amps, and indeed there is often a button to allow the DI to be before or after the preamp. The aim of a DI is to send your signal somewhere else with a hint of colour (as others have noted) whereas a preamp is a slightly more agressive thing to have in your signal path as it's aim is to colour your tone. Reading this thread so far, I think it's probably a preamp rather than a DI that you are after. There are many available, at the moment I'm using a Genzler which is pretty punchy. Seems to me, lots of folks change their pre amp pedals as if it’s an experimental game. This Genzler: do I have need to compare it to a SansAmp or others? All these options is driving me bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 19 hours ago, SimonK said: Might be worth just noting that many preamp pedals have a "DI" function built in, which is essentially a transformer that allows a balanced signal to be sent to a mixing desk... Several good points. A tiny addition: balancing can be done electronically, therefore an audio transformer is not a must. Opamps are cheaper than say, a Lars Lundahl transformer. https://www.lundahltransformers.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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