JoeEvans Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) Anyone got any suggestions for disco / funk / soul tunes in 6/8? I can only think of Stevie Wonder's 'Higher Ground' but I'm sure there's loads of others... EDIT - 12/8 would also be fine, or 4/4 that could be characterised as 12/8. It's the triplets that are important! Edited August 27 by JoeEvans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Higher Ground is in 4/4. Does have a 12/8 feel in places though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 22 minutes ago, Mykesbass said: Higher Ground is in 4/4. Does have a 12/8 feel in places though. It's so consistently in triplets that you could score it out in 6/8, so counts as 6/8 for my sinister purposes... It would actually come out a bit neater on the page if you wrote it out in 6/8 or 12/8, the 4/4 renditions are covered in triplet indicators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 7 minutes ago, JoeEvans said: It's so consistently in triplets that you could score it out in 6/8, so counts as 6/8 for my sinister purposes... It would actually come out a bit neater on the page if you wrote it out in 6/8 or 12/8, the 4/4 renditions are covered in triplet indicators. Sinister - I hope you're not hoping to get people dancing a Viennese Waltz to it 😏 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 25 minutes ago, JoeEvans said: It's so consistently in triplets that you could score it out in 6/8, so counts as 6/8 for my sinister purposes... It would actually come out a bit neater on the page if you wrote it out in 6/8 or 12/8, the 4/4 renditions are covered in triplet indicators. 6/8 is pushing it, 12/8 perhaps.....? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoeEvans said: Anyone got any suggestions for disco / funk / soul tunes in 6/8? I can only think of Stevie Wonder's 'Higher Ground' but I'm sure there's loads of others... Off the top of my head, all I can suggest is Aretha, and Natural Woman. Edited August 27 by MacDaddy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) I got you babe, Delilah - 3/4 rather than 6/8 but just multiply both sides by 2. PS. Of course it depends what discos you go/went to. Edited August 27 by tauzero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I think Searching by Change (Luther Vandross) is 4/4 (four to the floor) but has a 12/8 feel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 'This Will Be (An Everlasting Love)' is 4/4 but has a strong R&B Swing 12/8 feel. Great to play as well!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Knock On Wood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 I also just thought of Michael Jackson's 'The way you make me feel'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 11 hours ago, tauzero said: I got you babe, Delilah - 3/4 rather than 6/8 but just multiply both sides by 2. PS. Of course it depends what discos you go/went to. Both would require a pretty loose definition of disco 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman68 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 If you are thinking of more ‘shuffle’ beats, A few of Billy Ocean’s songs have it? ’When the going gets tough’ ’Love really hurts’ They all have that shuffle on the Hi-hat… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 AFAICS all the songs mentioned in this thread that are actually disco are in 4/4 with a shuffle or triplet feel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 30 minutes ago, BigRedX said: AFAICS all the songs mentioned in this thread that are actually disco are in 4/4 with a shuffle or triplet feel. And has mostly been pointed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 OK, may have found a contender. Funky from a rock perspective (RHCP, Living Colour vibe), Ocean Colour Scene Riverboat Song. I like the use of the accent on the 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Fairytale of New York is 6/8. That goes to show that 6/8 is not disco. It's a jig. The beat is 2. 12/8 is 4 beats to a bar. 4 beats of 3 isn't very 'disco' but at least it is 4 on the floor Guitarists need to get over having to make up bullshit time signatures to lose their triplets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 32 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said: Fairytale of New York is 6/8. That goes to show that 6/8 is not disco. It's a jig. The beat is 2. 12/8 is 4 beats to a bar. 4 beats of 3 isn't very 'disco' but at least it is 4 on the floor Guitarists need to get over having to make up bullshit time signatures to lose their triplets. If I transcribed 'The way you make me feel' three times, in 6/8, 12/8 and 4/4 with triplets, then gave the transcriptions to three different sets of musicians, you wouldn't be able to tell which group was playing which version. They're just different ways of writing out the same thing. I see this in practice in Irish traditional music - slides are conventionally written out in 12/8 and jigs in 6/8, but there's no difference between them for the listener because it's the dances that are different not the tunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 22 minutes ago, JoeEvans said: If I transcribed 'The way you make me feel' three times, in 6/8, 12/8 and 4/4 with triplets, then gave the transcriptions to three different sets of musicians, you wouldn't be able to tell which group was playing which version You should be able if the musicians were any good and used the time signatures. So 6/8 would have a 1-2 feel with accents on beats 1 and 4; 12/8 would have a 1-2-3-4 feel with accents on beats 1-4-7-10; 4/4 would maintain the standard 4 beat emphasis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 What's the feel on 2/2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 19 hours ago, BigRedX said: AFAICS all the songs mentioned in this thread that are actually disco are in 4/4 with a shuffle or triplet feel. If it hasn't got 4/4 is isn't disco. "Bring it Back" is kinda disco. Also 4/4 with a bass groove heavy on swung triplets over 2 beats. Maybe what the OP was thinking of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Alicia Keys - Fallin' Not disco but soul in 6/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 7 hours ago, MacDaddy said: You should be able if the musicians were any good and used the time signatures. So 6/8 would have a 1-2 feel with accents on beats 1 and 4; 12/8 would have a 1-2-3-4 feel with accents on beats 1-4-7-10; 4/4 would maintain the standard 4 beat emphasis. So the 6/8, 12/8 and 4/4 shuffle would all have an accent on the first beat of each triplet, in other words... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 9 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: What's the feel on 2/2? This young lady explains 2/2 rather well. When I used to work in pit and show work it was quite common (no pun intended), especially in up tempo tunes and scores. Very much two in the bar feel for Bass parts. Time Signature 2/2 (Cut Time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHM Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 for an end-of-evening smoochy, 'Knights in White Satin'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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