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A new neck on a (Lefty) Squier VM 77


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Soo. My initial cheap Squier has an iffy Maple Neck.

Came across a right handed replacement precision style neck cheapish. 

 

QUESTION 1: This is a 21 fret rosewood board item, as opposed to original Squier Jazz Neck.

Installation Advice ?

Also, i may re use the Squier Tuners. They work OK but a bit gawky. The 'handedness' on an upside down headstock , the correct geometry perplexes me 4 some reason (lol).

Finishing neck & headstock ? 

I have reasonably comprehensive tools and bench. Electric hand tools and a small router. A nice project ???

 

THANX in advance to any respondents who chip in with some advice...

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The finishing and shaping question is the one for me. What is the thickness of the neck? Are you comfortable reshaping it? I've found cheaper unfinished necks are often a bit chunky.

Finishing, I'd use true oil or crimson finishing oil or lacquer - I have done both and the true oil feels nicer to me.

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On 29/08/2024 at 11:39, bloke_zero said:

The finishing and shaping question is the one for me. What is the thickness of the neck? Are you comfortable reshaping it? I've found cheaper unfinished necks are often a bit chunky.

Finishing, I'd use true oil or crimson finishing oil or lacquer - I have done both and the true oil feels nicer to me.

Exactly the advice I was seeking.

It's actually quite a nice satin finish already. I should have made myself clearer. It has a precision style headstock. I thought might look cool upside down. The natural finish Squier Body is the usual boiled sweet appearance. 

Effectively then the additional fret  simply 'overhangs' the body a tad more. I'd still need to check intonation was achievable without messing with Bridge Position etc but it should be there or thereabouts (I Hope)

Right....

Stage 1 offer the neck to the Squier Body and see wot 'happens.

Thank You @bloke_zero

JOdeV 

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On 01/09/2024 at 02:59, JottoSW1 said:

Effectively then the additional fret  simply 'overhangs' the body a tad more. I'd still need to check intonation was achievable without messing with Bridge Position etc but it should be there or thereabouts (I Hope)

I'd not be confident to say this - you could measure the fret and check to see if there is enough play in the saddles?

 

Apologies - I'd not really clocked this aspect of it earlier.

 

I'd wonder if you might not have to move the bridge towards the neck/nut and that would then expose the old screw holes for the bridge.

 

Hopefully someone with more experience will be along!?

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24 minutes ago, bloke_zero said:

I'd not be confident to say this - you could measure the fret and check to see if there is enough play in the saddles?

 

Apologies - I'd not really clocked this aspect of it earlier.

 

I'd wonder if you might not have to move the bridge towards the neck/nut and that would then expose the old screw holes for the bridge.

 

Hopefully someone with more experience will be along!?

I'd envisaged this, though not until after purchase of a 21 fret precision neck.

As I intend to refinish squier body tis not a problem. Rosewood board of some sort don't look good to me with blonde sticky looking vm77 natural.

 

Best way to take polyester finish off a Bass body...?

 

 

 

 

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Since there's no overhanging fingerboard, I suppose you'll need to rout out the neck pocket so you can set the neck in slightly deeper. Moving the bridge would be easier, but will change the relative positions of the pickups and thereby the tone of the bass, since both pickups will be closer to the bridge.

 

Then again I know a certain guy (he who shan't be named) who makes his neck pockets deeper and lets the bridge overhang off the edge of the butt end of the body without moving the pickups, with no issues... :biggrin:

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On 01/09/2024 at 02:59, JottoSW1 said:

Effectively then the additional fret  simply 'overhangs' the body a tad more

I'm a bit confused and can't see from the photos.  Does your 21 fret neck have an overhang of the fretboard?  If so, when the heel fits into the pocket, the scale length will be identical between the two necks because the heel will end at the same place relative to the 20th fret and all the rest of them.

 

So yes - to answer your question above - a 20 fret Squier neck ends just past the 20th fret and the fretboard ends flush with the end of the heel, whereas the 21 fret fretboard is extended beyond the end of the heel, creating the overhang, and far enough to fit another fret in it.  :)

 

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Hmm, yeah - I see what you mean @Andyjr1515 - from the pictures you can't actually see if there is an over hanging fret as we only see the front and back but not the side.

 

If there is an over hang like:

 

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Then there is not going to be any problem with intonation as the neck will be in the right place.

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